JerryBaumchen 1,373 #26 October 4, 2013 Hi Mark, Quote Jerry, do you think we can get the manufacturers, USPA, DZOs, and jumpers on board with our program? Some, I doubt most; but who knows. I have personally had discussions with two ( one very large mfr and one rather smaller mfr ) and both have said that they would like to get the FAA out of this business. Now PIA should develop a questionaire/poll and see what responses you get? I would suggest one with numerous options as to how to go forward with 'some' change. There was an effort back in the late 70's/early 80's that got substantially shot down by a vast majority of mfrs. Just a thought, JerryBaumchen PS) One more thought: Let each mfr decide which version of the TSO standard(s) he wants to self-certify to. PPS) ETA for a typo or three. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 107 #27 October 4, 2013 JerryBaumchenThere was an effort back in the late 70's/early 80's that got substantially shot down by a vast majority of mfrs. IIRC, that was an FAA trial balloon in the late 80's. What I remember is is that it didn't go any farther because neither PIA nor USPA wanted to be in the rigger certification business, USPA having tried it with the ram-air rigger rating around 1980. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,373 #28 October 5, 2013 Hi Mark, Quote an FAA trial balloon I really do not recall the specifics and/or details. It might have been the feds. But I do remember that the vast majority of mfrs wanted nothing to do with it. Having had multiple TSO's since 1979, I am convinced that a self-certifying system would work just as well as the 'FAA oversight,' whatever that might/might not be. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #29 October 5, 2013 Quoteit takes an act of Congress to change a FAR. Respectfully, sir, not quite. FARs are regulations created by the FAA. The FAA has the authority to amend FARs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #30 October 9, 2013 Andy9o8Quoteit takes an act of Congress to change a FAR. Respectfully, sir, not quite. FARs are regulations created by the FAA. The FAA has the authority to amend FARs. ........................................................................... Sorry, Perhaps I used the wrong legal term. "Sequestration" ... "Act of Congress" ... "Bigger fish to fry" ... "Mating elephants" ... "Al Quida can do more damage than all the parachute riggers on the planet" ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 October 10, 2013 riggerrob***Quoteit takes an act of Congress to change a FAR. Respectfully, sir, not quite. FARs are regulations created by the FAA. The FAA has the authority to amend FARs. ........................................................................... Sorry, Perhaps I used the wrong legal term. "Sequestration" ... "Act of Congress" ... "Bigger fish to fry" ... "Mating elephants" ... "Al Quida can do more damage than all the parachute riggers on the planet" ... I see. You have to move the sun and the Earth to change a FAR. Only Superman can move the sun and the Earth. Therefore only Superman can change a FAR. But that's OK. He's an expert BASE jumper, and can out-track... well... anybody, so I presume he's on our side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
