bsoontirfel 0 #1 October 31, 2013 dumb Q. but im used rig shopping, how do i tell the diff in the ZP and F111 fabric?? are there markings somewhere that i've missed? its a 1993 PA Monarch. i emailed PA about the specs but no reply Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #2 October 31, 2013 Look up the canopy's specs... or touch it... almost everything is full ZP except the Pulse, Silhouette, and other old stuff.NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #3 October 31, 2013 Shake it baby! Shake it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #4 October 31, 2013 Cut it and see if it frays If it's a old worn ZP parachute it can be hard to notice the difference by shaking, packing or feeling it. Old worn ZP will not be ZP, it will let air through. So? Is the question for "just knowing" or safety? If i's because of safety and you want to know how much you can load the canopy or how old it is? Try packing it and see how it feels, is it slippery, does it hold air, etc. But if you only want to know what fabric it is you can most of the time see the difference. ZP has a square pattern that is easy to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #5 October 31, 2013 Monarch is a ZP canopy. Whoever else posted above me should be ashamed of the BS garbage they wrote. "ZP is a square pattern ????" Raf up on what ripstop is. .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #6 October 31, 2013 Try and suck air through it.....My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #7 October 31, 2013 obelixtimTry and suck air through it..... This way works too... at the cost of looking silly."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 October 31, 2013 likestojumpMonarch is a ZP canopy. Whoever else posted above me should be ashamed of the BS garbage they wrote. "ZP is a square pattern ????" Raf up on what ripstop is. .. This. And the "breathe through" technique.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisD 0 #9 October 31, 2013 bsoontirfel dumb Q. but im used rig shopping, how do i tell the diff in the ZP and F111 fabric?? are there markings somewhere that i've missed? its a 1993 PA Monarch. i emailed PA about the specs but no reply Could you perhaps update your profile information, I'm a little concerned that your wing loading says 0.1 or am I missing something? One post in 9 years? Congratulations on posting here!!! Awsome to finally hear from ya!!!If you want to buy a new canopy I think Paul can get you a discount Stay safe! C WElcome (Am I to understand this is hello and now goodbye???) Good luck and take care as well....But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #10 October 31, 2013 . Quote at the cost of looking silly. Only if you try every square inch.......through your nostrils.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites