bbarnhouse 0 #1 May 21, 2002 This past week-end was a real eye opener for me as I listened to some of the comments made by some of our skydiving family members toward some of the professional packers.Not only did they get treated badly by some, but they worked really long hours in 103 degree temperature. I heard one fella tell a packer that the opening was "unaceptable".......so she had someone else pack it the next time. That one wasn't "acceptable" either. Little did the gentleman know, that these are the packers for some of the top teams in this country. They give the same quality packs regardless of who you are. Furthermore, We are responsible for our lives, not the packer, they just afford us the opportunity to jump again.So,if you are jumpin junk ..........don't blame the packer.Don't treat them with such careless disregard! These people work long and hard for thier money.......TIP them too they deserve it! Ultimately, this same packer one day,might just be one of the best skydivers this nation has to offer. I've seen it posted here........be careful whose toes you step on, you may be kissing their a$$ one day. I offer that perhaps it would serve well to remember, that they are our family and treat them as such. To all of the packers out there........I salute you and thank you for your service.Cheers!BBBut 4000 windmills CAN'T be wrong! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #2 May 21, 2002 Too right - one of the coolest people I've met in skydiving was a packer, and he worked his ass off all day. Look at me, I'm falling off a cliff now - The Offspring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canopycudler 0 #3 May 21, 2002 I agree with you 100%!! I have to tell you.. the packer i use is 14 years old.. and i think hes kicks ass! For those packer bashers... If you have some wierd opening.. it might NOT be your packer.. it might be your body position! Talk to him or her.. offer suggestions.. and most of all BE NICE and TIP Well.. these people work there asses off..!! If Nate(16) amd Alex (14) at archway someday jump as good as they pack.. Look out guys.. competition is on the way!!Heres to packers nationwide.. CHEERS we're 74 miles from normal..... .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #4 May 21, 2002 I love our packers at DeLand and Cross Keys, they rock, and of course they're mostly young hot women, that doens't hurt either!! j/k they work hard, and I try to make their job as painless as possible - set my brakes, uncollapse my slider and cock my PC. besides, then I know its done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #5 May 21, 2002 The words"Thank-you for your hard work" goes a long way too.....CheersBut 4000 windmills CAN'T be wrong! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #6 May 21, 2002 QuoteI love our packers at DeLand and Cross Keys, they rock, and of course they're mostly young hot women, that doens't hurt either!! Hear, hear!I always make it a point to tell my packer about my openings, especially the sweet ones. If I have a bad opening, I will talk with the packer and see if he/she had done anything different, if not, I suspect operator error. On the rare instance that I know I was in good opening position and get whacked I will discuss it in a non-confrontational way with the packer, and for some reason, the next opening is invariably sweet.I never bad-mouth a packer 'cause I figure they are human too. They make my life easier in general and I appreciate it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 0 #7 May 21, 2002 dave,thanks and its okay to think your packers are hot chicks.oh yeah... whats going on with that exersize program? http://kel197.tripod.com/skydivefriendsTRIPOD/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #8 May 21, 2002 If they do a good job tip em!!!!!"....and then the canopy opens and you float down to the ground like a multicolored snowflake"JGRat# 27 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #9 May 21, 2002 The jumper who goes from packer to packer complaining about "unacceptable" pack jobs seems a little hi-faloot'in. Packers not only work their asses off, but also have the morals not to pack you a mal when you act like an ass. I'll bet this person has had their food spit on in more than one restaurant. Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #10 May 21, 2002 depends on which "routine" you want!!!!and I always tip!! (and say thanks) except Kelly only wants to pack for Alex, what's up with that -- my canopies are smaller and easier to pack too!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #11 May 21, 2002 Quote I'll bet this person has had their food spit on in more than one restaurant We've all seen Road Trip !! Look at me, I'm falling off a cliff now - The Offspring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #12 May 21, 2002 I jump gear that is packed by another person almost all the time. I always compliment them on the openings regardless if they are bad or good. Call me a liar I don't care, just as long as I don't have to pack. I tip my packers always. So if I get a snivel snivel wack! several line twists with a steering line over the right end cell. I still thank them for the beautiful openingPlus it's a whole karma thing. Just be nice to people if you can help it.Sebazz........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #13 May 21, 2002 "If they do a good job tip em!!!!!"Snowie is right.However I pay 'em to get it in the bag, and tip 'em to make sure it comes out sweetly. And its nice to get your packer a cool drink from time to time....CyaDGravity Rat # 37Remember, we can do everything right, and still get hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChromeBoy 0 #14 May 21, 2002 I just got my reserve repack and the rigger deep cleaned it and did some minor changes to it. The total came to $125.00. I tipped the rigger $10.00 for doing such a good job. I generally tip the packers $1.00 per pack job. Is this the usual? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cyberskydive 0 #15 May 21, 2002 Ahh everything is so warm and fuzzy..........lolI used to pack...alot.....it's payed for every bit of gear I own! -pretty much, so thanks for your $$$-lol as far as whining goes.....I never really got any, but if / when I did it was usually fairly constructive, and if it was just stupid well, you would get a stupid response back-lol, like, "body position" or in some extreme case "Pack it yourself"-lolthe one thing noone mentions, yeah packing is hard work, blah blah warm fuzzy but for those of us who jump, we get to freakin sit on the ground wayyyyyyyyyyy to much........that was the thing I disliked the most, especially when there were alot of rigs to pack, if I were to go jump, there would be 10 tandems waiting for me when I got back-lol and on busy weekends sunset load was no different, so the answer was to get on loads early in the day, but then I was still hungover..so damn-hathe folks you have to watrch out for are the ones who "forget" to pay you..............there is no spoon--------------------My website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #16 May 21, 2002 I generally tip my packer $5 per day, I use the same guy, Zak Tessier, whenever I'm at my 'home' DZ. Hell we even go jumping together from time to time....I tip my rigger in beer......CyaDGravity Rat # 37Remember, we can do everything right, and still get hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spy38W 0 #17 May 21, 2002 OOC, what minor changes did you have done to it?--Give them a sip of the darkside, and they just thirst for more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmcguffee 0 #18 May 21, 2002 Just to keep them honest you need to have them jump your rig about once a month, on their pack job, and don't tell them they're jumping it until after it is packed. "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #19 May 21, 2002 Yeah actually I never talk bad to the packers, never, but if i get so much as just a half a line twist you better believe I'll go out and key their car........What? What! I am just kidding...........Sebazz........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,058 #20 May 21, 2002 >. I heard one fella tell a packer that the opening was "unaceptable".......so she> had someone else pack it the next time. That one wasn't "acceptable" either.> Little did the gentleman know, that these are the packers for some of the top> teams in this country. They give the same quality packs regardless of who you> are. Now, to be fair, it requires a different style of packing if you have to pack a 1993 Sabre 150 after packing Stiletto 97's all day. The exact same "quality pack" that gives a 4-way team great openings could knock your shoes off if you're under that Sabre. If I'm packing for someone else and I pack a hard opening I want to know about it, so I know to pack more of a snivel for them next time. If someone packs for me and I get a hard opening I will let them know it as well, so they can tweak their procedure.There are great packers out there, and there are packers that suck. I once had an official DZ packer ask me where the other 2 cells were on my Pursuit 215. Heck, I was once a packer and _I_ sucked, but I had to pay for my first 50 jumps somehow.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scotts 0 #21 May 21, 2002 Telling your packer about a problem, is one thing. Being a Prick about it, is another. Reserve ride, Sir? Maybe he'll like that opening better, since it just saved his life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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SkydiveMonkey 0 #11 May 21, 2002 Quote I'll bet this person has had their food spit on in more than one restaurant We've all seen Road Trip !! Look at me, I'm falling off a cliff now - The Offspring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #12 May 21, 2002 I jump gear that is packed by another person almost all the time. I always compliment them on the openings regardless if they are bad or good. Call me a liar I don't care, just as long as I don't have to pack. I tip my packers always. So if I get a snivel snivel wack! several line twists with a steering line over the right end cell. I still thank them for the beautiful openingPlus it's a whole karma thing. Just be nice to people if you can help it.Sebazz........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #13 May 21, 2002 "If they do a good job tip em!!!!!"Snowie is right.However I pay 'em to get it in the bag, and tip 'em to make sure it comes out sweetly. And its nice to get your packer a cool drink from time to time....CyaDGravity Rat # 37Remember, we can do everything right, and still get hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #14 May 21, 2002 I just got my reserve repack and the rigger deep cleaned it and did some minor changes to it. The total came to $125.00. I tipped the rigger $10.00 for doing such a good job. I generally tip the packers $1.00 per pack job. Is this the usual? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #15 May 21, 2002 Ahh everything is so warm and fuzzy..........lolI used to pack...alot.....it's payed for every bit of gear I own! -pretty much, so thanks for your $$$-lol as far as whining goes.....I never really got any, but if / when I did it was usually fairly constructive, and if it was just stupid well, you would get a stupid response back-lol, like, "body position" or in some extreme case "Pack it yourself"-lolthe one thing noone mentions, yeah packing is hard work, blah blah warm fuzzy but for those of us who jump, we get to freakin sit on the ground wayyyyyyyyyyy to much........that was the thing I disliked the most, especially when there were alot of rigs to pack, if I were to go jump, there would be 10 tandems waiting for me when I got back-lol and on busy weekends sunset load was no different, so the answer was to get on loads early in the day, but then I was still hungover..so damn-hathe folks you have to watrch out for are the ones who "forget" to pay you..............there is no spoon--------------------My website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #16 May 21, 2002 I generally tip my packer $5 per day, I use the same guy, Zak Tessier, whenever I'm at my 'home' DZ. Hell we even go jumping together from time to time....I tip my rigger in beer......CyaDGravity Rat # 37Remember, we can do everything right, and still get hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #17 May 21, 2002 OOC, what minor changes did you have done to it?--Give them a sip of the darkside, and they just thirst for more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #18 May 21, 2002 Just to keep them honest you need to have them jump your rig about once a month, on their pack job, and don't tell them they're jumping it until after it is packed. "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #19 May 21, 2002 Yeah actually I never talk bad to the packers, never, but if i get so much as just a half a line twist you better believe I'll go out and key their car........What? What! I am just kidding...........Sebazz........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #20 May 21, 2002 >. I heard one fella tell a packer that the opening was "unaceptable".......so she> had someone else pack it the next time. That one wasn't "acceptable" either.> Little did the gentleman know, that these are the packers for some of the top> teams in this country. They give the same quality packs regardless of who you> are. Now, to be fair, it requires a different style of packing if you have to pack a 1993 Sabre 150 after packing Stiletto 97's all day. The exact same "quality pack" that gives a 4-way team great openings could knock your shoes off if you're under that Sabre. If I'm packing for someone else and I pack a hard opening I want to know about it, so I know to pack more of a snivel for them next time. If someone packs for me and I get a hard opening I will let them know it as well, so they can tweak their procedure.There are great packers out there, and there are packers that suck. I once had an official DZ packer ask me where the other 2 cells were on my Pursuit 215. Heck, I was once a packer and _I_ sucked, but I had to pay for my first 50 jumps somehow.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotts 0 #21 May 21, 2002 Telling your packer about a problem, is one thing. Being a Prick about it, is another. Reserve ride, Sir? Maybe he'll like that opening better, since it just saved his life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
