Bip 0 #1 December 13, 2013 Hi all, I just got a new bag for my Vector V348 and it is a bit different than my old bag. I have Attached a Picture showing the 4 grommets on the mouth for the lines but there are only 3 tabs for the elastic bands on the other side. (circled in red) The 3 tabs are symetrical. The centre tab is in the middle. I presume it is supposed to be like this but I have not seen it before so I thought I would ask here how I am supposed to set it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #2 December 13, 2013 I cannot think of a reason why "it's supposed to be like that". Perhaps contact UPT and see what they say ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishrigger 32 #3 December 13, 2013 HMM have not seen that either before, i think they left out a Tab by accident, I would send the same email to UPT and ask for clarification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #4 December 13, 2013 BipHi all, I just got a new bag for my Vector V348 and it is a bit different than my old bag. I have Attached a Picture showing the 4 grommets on the mouth for the lines but there are only 3 tabs for the elastic bands on the other side. (circled in red) The 3 tabs are symetrical. The centre tab is in the middle. I presume it is supposed to be like this but I have not seen it before so I thought I would ask here how I am supposed to set it up. aren't those for the first 2 rubber bands so you can stow the lines as seen on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipf6tLO43n0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #5 December 14, 2013 GooniesKid***Hi all, I just got a new bag for my Vector V348 and it is a bit different than my old bag. I have Attached a Picture showing the 4 grommets on the mouth for the lines but there are only 3 tabs for the elastic bands on the other side. (circled in red) The 3 tabs are symetrical. The centre tab is in the middle. I presume it is supposed to be like this but I have not seen it before so I thought I would ask here how I am supposed to set it up. aren't those for the first 2 rubber bands so you can stow the lines as seen on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipf6tLO43n0My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEREJumper 1 #6 December 14, 2013 No, the UPT semi stowless bag only has 2 grommets, his bag has 4.We're not fucking flying airplanes are we, no we're flying a glorified kite with no power and it should be flown like one! - Stratostar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 0 #7 December 14, 2013 irishrigger HMM have not seen that either before, i think they left out a Tab by accident, I would send the same email to UPT and ask for clarification. Seems that is the case. UPT is sorting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #8 December 14, 2013 This is why I always suspect gear is completely wrong when it's coming straight from the manufacturer. I believe everything is wrong until I inspect it to prove otherwise."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 0 #9 December 14, 2013 theonlyskiThis is why I always suspect gear is completely wrong when it's coming straight from the manufacturer. I believe everything is wrong until I inspect it to prove otherwise. This did not come straight from the manufaturer. It came through a dealer who assembled it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #10 December 14, 2013 Bip***This is why I always suspect gear is completely wrong when it's coming straight from the manufacturer. I believe everything is wrong until I inspect it to prove otherwise. This did not come straight from the manufacturer. It came through a dealer who assembled it. Wait, what? Someone actually rigged this up after receiving it from the manufacturer?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 0 #11 December 14, 2013 theonlyski******This is why I always suspect gear is completely wrong when it's coming straight from the manufacturer. I believe everything is wrong until I inspect it to prove otherwise. This did not come straight from the manufacturer. It came through a dealer who assembled it. Wait, what? Someone actually rigged this up after receiving it from the manufacturer? Yes, that is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ufk22 33 #12 December 14, 2013 Bip*********This is why I always suspect gear is completely wrong when it's coming straight from the manufacturer. I believe everything is wrong until I inspect it to prove otherwise. This did not come straight from the manufacturer. It came through a dealer who assembled it. Wait, what? Someone actually rigged this up after receiving it from the manufacturer? Yes, that is correct.I would have doubts about the judgement of any rigger that didn't catch this obvious mistake.This is the paradox of skydiving. We do something very dangerous, expose ourselves to a totally unnecesary risk, and then spend our time trying to make it safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #13 December 14, 2013 Before everyone goes and blames the assembling rigger, the picture of the bag shown obviously not been assembled. The rubberband loops are not even set, so they never had a rubberband attached to them. I am not saying that it's ok not to notice something like that, but I totally see how one may overlook this non-lifethreateting part of the bag when only packing the reserve. All you rightous riggers, where on your assembly/checklist is the item "check that number of rubberband stows on the main d-bag matches the number of grommets" ???? This is an item that is likely to be missed until you are actually packing the main into the bag and attempting to close it. You want your riggers to get diligent into the nitty-gritty and count stitches ? Surely you don't expect that for $50, do you ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deyan 36 #14 December 14, 2013 likestojumpBefore everyone goes and blames the assembling rigger, the picture of the bag shown obviously not been assembled. The rubberband loops are not even set, so they never had a rubberband attached to them. I am not saying that it's ok not to notice something like that, but I totally see how one may overlook this non-lifethreateting part of the bag when only packing the reserve. All you rightous riggers, where on your assembly/checklist is the item "check that number of rubberband stows on the main d-bag matches the number of grommets" ???? This is an item that is likely to be missed until you are actually packing the main into the bag and attempting to close it. You want your riggers to get diligent into the nitty-gritty and count stitches ? Surely you don't expect that for $50, do you ? THIS... I can't believe how easy riggers start blaming other riggers for a mistake or for overlooking something. It's like they never make any mistakes. If you do rigging, you gonna make a mistake. Period. If you think you won't, you are BSing yourself and your costumers..... and nobody said anything about UPT's QC! They were the people who should've stopped from getting out of the door, but guess what, they are humans and they do make mistakes as well."My belief is that once the doctor whacks you on the butt, all guarantees are off" Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 0 #15 December 14, 2013 likestojumpBefore everyone goes and blames the assembling rigger, the picture of the bag shown obviously not been assembled. The rubberband loops are not even set, so they never had a rubberband attached to them. The only reason for my post was to make sure I had indeed an incorrect bag. It was Friday night and everyone had gone home. Otherwise I would have called the rigger directly. I ordered Risers, bag, pilotchute etc assembled to a canopy so I could swap canopies in my rig. Everything has been assembled. The risers are attached to the lines, the bag and pilot chute are attached to the canopy. I must admit I was a little suprised that no rubber bands were mounted. but maybe this is the norm? Had they mounted rubber bands they would surely have seen the bag was incorrect and would have sorted the problem. But no biggie, a new bag is being shipped to me and I will swap it when it comes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 December 16, 2013 "... You want your riggers to get diligent into the nitty-gritty and count stitches ? Surely you don't expect that for $50, do you ?" ...................................................................................... A complete assemble, inspect and pack (on a new rig) costs more than $100 near Vancouver. Then I usually try to fob the main pack job off on one of the staff packers ... to ... er ... get a second set of eyballs to inspect it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites