3fLiEr 0 #1 April 17, 2002 http://www.adn.com/alaska/story/945973p-1046505c.htmlWhat a muppet!"In a world where we are slaves to gravity I am pleased to be a freedom fighter" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzone 0 #2 April 17, 2002 Well, his actions may have been irresponsible depending on your POV. But let's hope he makes a full recovery and lives to jump again.Whooooohooooo!!! Hahahaha!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #3 April 17, 2002 Don't know about him being a Muppet but:"Police spokesman Ron McGee said Kell may be cited for trespassing or endangering the lives of other people."Other people? it was midnight on a building site in the FREEZING snow?? HhhhhMmmmm"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #4 April 17, 2002 What is it with the word 'plunged'?I haven't read a single newspaper article about skydiving or BASE-jumping that doesn't include the word... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #5 April 17, 2002 **What is it with the word 'plunged'?**i don't care for the termonology either. it makes him sound like he was working on a plumbing fixture. plunged, huh, thats not correct, he fell, jumped, leaped, not plunged, that's something you do to a bathroom facility. i hope he's going to be o.k. :)RichardRichard"Gravity Is My Friend" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 April 17, 2002 No where does it say he was wearing a parachute. Maybe it's a story about a skydiver trying to commit suicide..... I know, they just left that part out. Hope he recovers to learn how to really do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #7 April 17, 2002 >No where does it say he was wearing a parachute.It says he was injured "when his parachute failed to open completely." Doesn't sound like a suicide.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 April 17, 2002 QuoteWhat is it with the word 'plunged'?Writing a hack news story is pretty formulaic. You should take a news writing class someday to find out just how easy it is for a hack and difficult it is for a true journalist."Plunged" connotes far more motion and emotion than a simple "jumped". Little kids jump rope. BASE jumpers, plunge to their deaths.Ever wonder why things "burst" into flames or becomes "engulfed" in flames? Same deal.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #9 April 17, 2002 Should we refer to skydiving as plunging from now on? I am going plunging this weekend! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #10 April 17, 2002 >I am going plunging this weekend!Well, let's all hope we don't plunge to our deaths when our parachutes fail to open, because as far as I can tell from reading the papers, that's about all that ever happens in skydiving. -bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #11 April 17, 2002 I don't want anything to do with "plunging" ........well maybe a different connotation would be acceptable.........but not the toilets ........no no no......Hey Bill........coffee?LMAO~cheersIt only takes a little pixie dust...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #12 April 17, 2002 >I don't want anything to do with "plunging" ........well maybe a different> connotation would be acceptable.........but not the toilets ........no no no......When I buy a house I want to get a composting toilet. Always thought it was dumb to use a two gallons of treated drinking water, hauled 800 miles through pipes, aqueducts and pumps, just to move your poo to yet another big facility where it's dumped somewhere else.>Hey Bill........coffee?I am one of the four people in the US that doesn't drink it.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #13 April 17, 2002 I love coffee I love tea...I love the java jive and it loves me, coffee and tea and the java and me acup,a cup, a cup a cup a cup....swooooshI love coffee sweet and hot.....whoops Mr.Motto I'm a coffee pot.........Egads now I'm begining to sound like Chromey......HELP!It only takes a little pixie dust...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #14 April 17, 2002 >I love coffee I love tea...I love the java jive and it loves me, coffee and tea and the> java and me acup,a cup, a cup a cup a cup....swoooosh>I love coffee sweet and hot.....whoops Mr.Motto I'm a coffee pot.........And here we see one reason I _don't_ drink coffee.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #15 April 17, 2002 *batting eyelashes* Why Bill whatever do you mean?LMAOIt only takes a little pixie dust...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 April 17, 2002 QuoteWhen I buy a house I want to get a composting toilet.Would the average American diet make that a viable option?I thought that in order for that to really work correctly, you pretty much had to be on a vegetarian diet.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #17 April 17, 2002 QuoteI thought that in order for that to really work correctly, you pretty much had to be on a vegetarian diet.Nope. We used to have one at our cottage before the septic system went in. They worked quite well, even with the 2 1/2 tons of barbeque consumed annualy at the cottage._AmICQ: 5578907MSN Messenger: andrewdmetcalfe at hotmail dot com AIM: andrewdmetcalfeYahoo IM: ametcalf_1999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 April 17, 2002 Well, there goes another misconception down the toilet.http://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #19 April 17, 2002 QuoteYou should take a news writing class someday to find out just how easy it is for a hack and difficult it is for a true journalistIn defence of journalists, they often have very little time to learn about a subject that may be very foreign to them. Workload and deadlines often make it difficult to gather and interpert the information they base their articles on. Of course we, as skydivers, are particularly sensitive to articles that make reference to our sport. Although you may not like it, the work "plunge" is accurate. Plunge = "to throw oneself". Now as far as accuracy goes, I rarely "jump" from a plane. I usually "step off" the plane... but that language isn't very colourful, and does not infer the excitement I feel... "jump" just sounds better!"There's nothing new under the sun" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 April 17, 2002 QuoteWorkload and deadlines often make it difficult to gather and interpert the information they base their articles on.Understood!That's why so much of it is recycled and boiler plate. I admire the true journos, but I also understand the hacks. I don't agree with them, I just understand them.Ya know, as bad as it is for the average hack print writer, the pressure is even worse for the average TV reporter. Even at a well funded station in the number two market, you're still expected to file as many as 5 stories a day. Just exactly how much depth can you give? So, you rely on what works and keeps people's interest high.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #21 April 17, 2002 >Would the average American diet make that a viable option?(warning - what follows should not be read while eating)The more meat you eat, the more your poo smells, but that's not really an issue - almost half of your feces by weight is bacteria anyway, and that's pretty much the same no matter what you eat. In any case, composting toilets pull air in through the bowl and out through an exhaust stack both to get rid of odors and to dry the stuff. It's supposed to be something like 25% water by weight to get aerobic decomposition going.You can also, of course, throw stuff like table scraps and biodegradable paper waste into the toilet. And six months later you get dirt out. Pretty cool.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #22 April 17, 2002 Gawd dang it! I shudda known yewd knowd all bout that kina excrement stuff there then yet.By golly I thinks we aughta head up in them hills and live dere.I dont eat none dat meat stuff, my poo smells like roses.bwaaaaaahhhhhIt only takes a little pixie dust...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #23 April 17, 2002 Quotethe more your poo smellsAnd Bill doesn't like it when you try to cover the smell with air freshner. Then you have to deal with two smells. Just open the window instead.Human beings were not meant to sit in little cubicles staring at computer screens all day! -Office Space Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #24 April 18, 2002 QuoteYa know, as bad as it is for the average hack print writer, the pressure is even worse for the average TV reporter. I know!!! I'm a tv news producer... that's why I am quick to defend those who write the news you read/watch/listen to... Jessica, feel free to jump in!"There's nothing new under the sun" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awyatt 0 #25 April 18, 2002 Don't know much about BASE or Canadian buildings, but isn't 14 stories a little low? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites