rgoper 0 #1 April 12, 2002 .......how safe are you? this is a self examanation of yourself. on a scale of 1-10 how safe are you?this consists of your opinion of gear selection, utilization, and gear checks, wing loading, gear checks, rig maintanance to the boarding of the aircraft, to exit order, altitude awareness, having a back-up plan for off dz landings, to deployment altitude, to emergency procedures, and "russian radar" to your landing pattern when you set up for final, also would you yield to the low man, in freefall, or under canopy? i'm curious just to get a general consensus here. i'll start it of ny rating myself a 6 1/2. this is a safety question, but is up for general disscussion.Regards:Richard"Running Wild In The Streets!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #2 April 12, 2002 1 i jump out of airplanes for christ sake!!! I would say a 8 ( i did a low turn one time when i should have just taken my downwind lumps) I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #3 April 12, 2002 I think this is a pretty tough question to answer. Everyone wants to think they're safe, but whether they are or not is sometimes difficult to see from first person. That said, and after some thought, I guess I'd give myself an 8. As a pilot, I feel I am extremely safety-conscious and I'd say that goes for skydiving as well. Nobody is perfect however, so I can't honestly give myself a 10. "If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 April 12, 2002 Probally like a 3 since I like playing with objects in freefall and will lose one eventually...."Hey.. Its my camera, and my remote... I'll rewind if I want to!" ~ Goat #2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #5 April 12, 2002 Like a 7 probably, since i have had a habit of taking the freefall lower than i would like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #6 April 12, 2002 10 I hope.. I am a safety freak.. Does jumping a smaller canopy drop a couple of points automatically? LOL Blue Skies ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #7 April 12, 2002 QuoteDoes jumping a smaller canopy drop a couple of points automatically?Not if you do it safely..."If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #8 April 12, 2002 i'd probly say i'm a 6 or 7...... anybody still want to jump with me?????"i may not go to heven, i hope you go to hell"-C.C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #9 April 12, 2002 Interesting question. I immediately tried to rate myself and that led to questions. Could I be safer than I am? Yes. So I guess that means I can't give myself a 10. Am I unsafe? No. So I am not a 1. What could I do to get a safety rating of 10? I could jump a large canopy. I could jump only on clear days, with little wind. I could wear an AAD and only do solos. I could wear a visual and audible altimeter. I could wear a helmet on every jump. I could only do hop and pops from 5,000 ft. I could do these things, but then I would be sacraficing the enjoyment I get out of skydiving for safety. So I guess I accept more risk for more enjoyment. I don't consider myself un-safe. If I was un-safe, the odds are I would have been injured by now. Without sacraficing the enjoyment I get out of skydiving, I don't see any way to increase my level of safety. I have learned as much as I can along the way and continue to do so. Does that make me a 10? Probably not.I suppose I have to give myself a 9, because there has to something I can do to increase my level of safety without taking any of the fun out of skydiving.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #10 April 12, 2002 I think I have the safest gear vector 3 micron with hard cutawy housing, a cypres, two audibles and an visual altimiter. I am anal as shit about exit order, the spot, and I have learned to gaze at the ground periodically during a freefly to look for canopies, and above me when I track off.but....I could have a jack the ripper knife and...well I could have two jack the ripper knives like super Dave did, althought my camera hlmet is fairly streamlined. - 1 point.I downsized faster than normal and have been slightly hurt and really embarrassed because of it. -2, but whenever I go to a DZ wih less wide opne outs than Spacleand I jump my bigger canopy which I am not afraid to land on a street in between powerlines, or downwind to avoid obstacles (which I have done and can stand up) +.5So...7.5I doubt I will ever want a smaller canopy than my fat FX 109 (as I have downwinded it 5mph and stood up and performed braked turns to avoid objects (strange small metal sign)...but until I feel like I could land it between a ditch and a front yard I will be taking an additional risk whenever i jump it.ramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coconutmonkey 0 #11 April 12, 2002 Always have students watching so that adds to the anal factor a bit. Still, can't always spot everything. Figure about an 8.5. Fighting off bad habits.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #12 April 12, 2002 I'm a danger to myself and everyone around me.....I'm a danger to myself and everyone around me......I'm a danger to myself and everyone around me. There I said it 3 times real fast.....Now let's launch a flower!!!!! "It's all about the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #13 April 12, 2002 QuoteI'm a danger to myself and everyone around me.....Danger excites me...."Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E150 0 #14 April 12, 2002 * I always check my gear at the beginning of the day. * I always check my gear (cypress main & reserve pin) before every jump.* Always get a flight line check.*Maintainance - think I should have cleaned my teflon cables by now (3 months old) but have not! * Am fairly confident of good/bad of DZ landings - lots of open feilds around us. * Aware of exit order most of time (95%). If not you can work it out easy with a max of 14 on a load. Or ask during ride to altitude. Also, if someone gets on our plane in the wrong place, the JM will move them!* Need to keep up the good habit of finding out what the uppers are doing (slacked recently). * Been taught well on stacking into landing, like to think I keep to this well. * I choose my gear conservativley (hence the 150). Its FF friendly too. * Alti awareness slipped when I bought a dytter. I have rectified that now. Like everyone, I don't like gusty conditions, but have jumped in them. The weather in the UK can be so shit, it can be tempting to jump when not idea!Like to think I'm fairly safetly consious, but it could be (like most of us) improved I'm sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #15 April 12, 2002 QuoteDanger excites me....Oh if it's danger you want just wait until I start drinkin beer. Then...it gets dangerous. "It's all about the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E150 0 #16 April 12, 2002 Oh and however safe we are of think we are, we do and wil all fuck up at some stage (low turns, bad spotting etc) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #17 April 12, 2002 QuoteOh if it's danger you want just wait until I start drinkin beer. Then...it gets dangerous. *Note to self....for a good time at WFFC, make sure to provide Clay with lots of beer....."Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #18 April 12, 2002 Quotefor a good time at WFFC, make sure to provide Clay with lots of beer.....Well....beer is OK....but if you want to get really crazy I must have Bacardi. I will warn you...I am VERY dangerous on Bacardi. Ask Andrea about the Free Flight Festival. I wasn't naked though....that I rememeber anyway....."It's all about the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #19 April 12, 2002 QuoteWell....beer is OK....but if you want to get really crazy I must have Bacardi. I will warn you...I am VERY dangerous on Bacardi. Bacardi it is!! But you better let me play with your boobies if i buy it for you....."Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #20 April 12, 2002 Quote!! But you better let me play with your boobies if i buy it for you.....Just pay special attention to the nipples...I like that....."It's all about the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #21 April 12, 2002 QuoteJust pay special attention to the nipples...I like that.....How about a little game? Whatever you do to my body, i have to do the same thing to yours....whaddya think?!"Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 April 12, 2002 QuoteWhatever you do to my body, i have to do the same thing to yours....whaddya think?!That sounds like something I could spend weeks and months at......"It's all about the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #23 April 12, 2002 Better what out if she cracks out the strap-on though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #24 April 12, 2002 TMFI !!!!!!!!!!We did not need to know about your nipple sensitivity Clay! yuk.....RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #25 April 12, 2002 Gear selection and maintainence - low wing loading on a relatively conservative canopy, just added a Cypres, recently added a hook knife, reserve sized within mfr specs for my experience (so I'm confident I could land it anywhere), freefly safe container, check my gear before I put it on and self-check it repeatedly until exit, handle touchs several times on the ground and several more on the plane before exit, inspect my rig on a regular basis and take excellent care of it, always wear a helmet, one audible and a visual altimeter, always wear gloves and shoes (sometimes I don't land so good.... ) Negatives - no RSL, don't always have a friend give me a gear check... -1In aircraft - seat belt and helmet on 'til 1000', exit order figured ahead of time, keep movement to a minimum so the pilot doesn't have to work too hard, don't fart. Negatives - 0Jump - check the spot before exit, leave plenty of time between groups, don't jump through clouds, freefly within my ability (sit and stand only on anything larger than a solo) and with people who are better than I am, choose the RW (more than 15 or so) bigways I'm on based on who's organizing and who's on it, track flat fast and far, check all around me before dumping, have started pulling a bit higher due to my slow opening main. Negatives - have had a few low openings - pulling at 2000-2500, getting full canopy at 1500 - this year (correcting that) -.5Canopy flight and landing - stay clear of everyone, head on a swivel during entire canopy ride, don't spiral (nothing more than a 360), aware of wind conditions prior to jump, land in a clear area instead of joining the masses in the grass, continue head on a swivel until out of the landing area. Negative - still working on not S turning on final (old habits die hard), need work on accuracy -17.5pull & flare,lisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
