Iflyme 0 #101 March 12, 2002 Quotebut can't a legal guardian sign the waiver? I'm interested more because I have some friends who want to take their 16 yr old on a tandem. Sorta like a family outingWell I'm no expert (sorry, lazerq3 ), legal that is, but I imagine even the government won't give you the legal right to sign away the legal rights of a minor. "Men weren't meant to rideWith clouds between their knees"Five For Fighting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #102 March 12, 2002 In Florida, the answer is a resounding NO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LittleJumper 0 #103 March 12, 2002 Well, I have to put my .02 worth in on this one. A waiver is like a contract. A minor can rescind a contract unless it's for necessities. In this case, even if the minor were to sign the waiver...it would be technically ineffective and unenforceable.For that matter, even with adults, if the dropzone were to do something negligent or intentional that would cause harm to someone, yes...a person can still sue regardless of the waiver.What you "think" you cannot do ...you CAN if you "think" about it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #104 March 12, 2002 that wasn't the point I was trying to make Terri. I realize that a 16 year old's sig doesn't neccessarily make it a valid contract, but what if her parent signed the waiver ? I guess it doesn't really matter since it's up to the DZ as to whether they would even take up a 16 yr old.I did hear that pretty much anyone can go in Mexico tho....Make up your own ending,let me know just how you feel.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LittleJumper 0 #105 March 12, 2002 I was going to say...I realize I didnt address the exact point...but as far as I know...even in California...you can't sign away a child's rights.What you "think" you cannot do ...you CAN if you "think" about it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #106 March 12, 2002 QuoteWell I'm no expert (sorry, lazerq3 ), CYA man...CYA!!!! jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverStump 0 #107 March 12, 2002 I have 2 boys 9 and 10 years old. They love the drop zone. My oldest is trying to learn to pack ( he wants to make money) and my youngest thought he was going to get to jump 4 years ago when my best friend took him on a plane ride. they have watched me jump several tmies and can't wait to do it. Their Grandmother on the other hand doesn't think it's such a hot idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #108 March 12, 2002 Ok,,I see what ya'll are saying,, but parents sign waivers all the time,, ie for surgery, to go for a school trip on a bus on the hwy with no seatbelts,, and we all know waivers are 6 pgs of bullshit anyway,, easily disregarded by a good lawyer,, I don't even read them anymore, just tell me where to sign ok,,, so would I sue anybody because my daughter gets hurt in a skydive? Hell no,, If I don't trust the people she's gonna jump with I wouldn't let her up in the first place,, She's old enough ta know the risks involved, she drive's a friggin car every day an that scares me!! She's old enough ta get pregnant an that scares me even more!! And yet she can do an AFF jump but not a tandem, which she wants to do for her first jump, and I feel more comfortable with anyway,, then if she wants to go AFF,, cool!Don't read this shit down here,, it's nonsense,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #109 March 13, 2002 It's one thing to sign an informed consent for a medical procedure, quite another to sign away one's legal rights, as we do with waivers for skydiving. Legally, that is a whole other ball of wax and why a parent cannot sign a skydiving waiver in FL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #110 March 13, 2002 Jack, then how does Z hills get away with this with there 16yr old tandemthing there...marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #111 March 13, 2002 You'll have to ask TK why he hangs his ass out on that one.Just don't ask Bill Booth -- he probably has a contract out on said ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #112 March 13, 2002 I figured that's the way it went...do they use strong or vectors down there I wonder....marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites