PhreeZone 20 #26 March 24, 2007 Out of the females that have died in skydiving since 2004 (32) these 6 were all due to hook turns or canopy collisions due to them hook turning. Thats 19% of incidents involving women are hook turn related. http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/126.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/122.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/129.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/117.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/51.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/7.shtmlYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozzy13 0 #27 March 24, 2007 BOTHNever give the gates up and always trust your rears! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #28 March 25, 2007 QuoteOut of the females that have died in skydiving since 2004 (32) these 6 were all due to hook turns or canopy collisions due to them hook turning. Thats 19% of incidents involving women are hook turn related. http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/126.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/122.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/129.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/117.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/51.shtml http://www.dropzone.com/fatalities/Detailed/7.shtml Geez...and I was beginning to think that being a female had its benefits when it came to jumping (besides the obvious ones). Thanks for the stats phreezoneDPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #29 March 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteIf someone jumps solo and stays with a big begginer chute and doesn't swoop are they less likely to have an accident? You have a significantly greater danger here: get addicted and spend all your spare money and free time on skydiving. Think again! This is not a thing dieing in, its living for... He's not joking! I was -just- going to do my AFF and the stop. It was a big joke, and it was just something I wanted to try. That was 65 jumps and about GBP4500 ago. And now the REAL costs start coming in as I ramp up the jumps. Be very careful - this is an addictive sport Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digitalmafia 0 #30 March 31, 2007 QuoteIf you do an actuarial type study, the AVERAGE reduction in life expectancy of someone who starts jumping in his/her twenties and makes 100 jumps/year for the rest of their life is around 2 years. In comparison, someone who starts smoking a pack a day in their twenties can expect a reduction in life expectancy of around 6 years. Man...I smoke a bit - Skydive and ride my Ducati to the drop zone...and married a hot blooded Mediterranean girl..im probably already living on borrowed time... Seriously tho -If the life expectancy was 1/150 I dont think we would have any instructors or DZO's around to help us become safer skydivers. I too as a student working towards my A have been bothered by reading too much, but I am much more concerned about my wife n 2 year old driving to the grocery then I am about skydiving. A lot of people watch TV n dream of doing 'stuff' - turn off the TV and start doing it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #31 March 31, 2007 Quote If you do an actuarial type study, the AVERAGE reduction in life expectancy of someone who starts jumping in his/her twenties and makes 100 jumps/year for the rest of their life is around 2 years. In comparison, someone who starts smoking a pack a day in their twenties can expect a reduction in life expectancy of around 6 years. Man, I should be dead already I just lost 16 years of my life I am so glad they are only statistics. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #32 April 11, 2007 QuoteOut of the 195 enteries in the fatality database here approx 32 are females. Thats about 16%. Thats roughly the same percentage of females that are skydivers. Of the 479 entries on skydivingfatalities.info where the gender is known, 78 of them are female ~ 16%. That's pretty consistent.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvToFly 0 #33 April 13, 2007 Well, almost welcome to the sport! Would just like chime in on a couple of things that have been said - - First off, it's absolutely great in my view that you are even asking these questions - because it shows that you are chiefly concerned about safety, and want to know how to avoid getting into situations that will hurt or kill you. The sport is no fun unless you can live long enough to enjoy it - - If you search the detailed incident reports, especially around fatalities, you'll see that a lot of people that go in are not newbies, but some are in fact quite experienced. This should tell you that over-confidence, or being insistent on pushing the safety envelope is a bad thing. It's all about controlled risk - how much you are willing to take on. It's the difference between a daredevil and a stuntman for a movie. The stuntman does something extremely dangerous, after he (or she) checks the weather, the wind, the humidity, the cloud coverage, the density altitude, the welds in the take-off ramp, the motorcycle engine; The daredevil says, "I don't need to check no stinkin stuff... I think I can make it." Which one of these things will you be? This is an important question that perhaps not enough people ask themselves. "Do I really give a crap that the rest of the people who started with me have downsized two times, and I'm still flying the 220" is a question that might come up for you. Will you give in to the peer pressure out a desire to impress? Many have, and some have paid for that dearly. In truth, the safety of the entire experience is up to you. No one - not even your AFF instructor can regulate this. It's all up to you to avoid those things and situations that will lead up to a disaster of some kind, and if you feel like pulling at 1,700' when you know you're not supposed to, then no one can stop you. Great instruction from a fantastic instructor will only go as far as you are consistent about implementing those safety strategies as you go forward - and not just at 20 jumps, but at 200 and 2000 as well. Lastly, be aware that some folks that should know better - including instructors and very seasoned D licensees, do things that they should not be doing; take chances that should never be taken, and disregard safety protocols that should never be broken. Don't be enamored with these folks either. They're not cool, they're stupid. Gravity could give a crap about how many jumps you have. It would seem, that some folks digress to impress... Don't be one of them. "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
