thrillseek 0 #1 March 10, 2002 I'm going to do a cool-ass stunt tomorrow...jump out with a rig in my arms(arms routed through the leg straps)Of course i'll be wearing another rig, but the video footage of me looking up at a rig with canopy opened and nobody in it will be priceless!! Anyone else have any good ideas for stunts?? Done any good ones lately?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2 March 10, 2002 I wouldn't recommend that. Opening shock could really screw up your arms. It would suck to be in freefall w/ two broken arms.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 March 10, 2002 Holding an empty rig stable at pull time is going to be hard enoughand with all probility.... the opening shock will either break your arms or cause sever pain. If you got the idea from Greg Gasson's "Rig-less jumps" you might want to know he was jumping a modified Spectre to give him a much longer and softer opening then most normal Spectres.If you do decide to try it..... Just remember to turn the CYPRES on and call 911 before you take off.....Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #4 March 10, 2002 slow, sub-terminal opening with a snivel packed into the rig....should be safe enough, but if not, I'll protect my thumb so i can open a reserve! :)weeeeeeeeeee!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #5 March 10, 2002 Greg Gasson isn't the inspiration actually...I am helping make a first jump course training video and this will be the "this is what happens if you don't fasten your chest strap" part of the video...If any student is EVER able to forget that image, i'll kiss your ass! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #6 March 10, 2002 I'll show you the video this summer at your boogie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 March 10, 2002 In terms of falling out of your rig, you will be upside down and gone before you realize it if your chest strap is undone and you fall forward. The best the video can hope to protray is holding on to a rig after deployment. What does your S&TA think about this stunt? Have you talked to all the AFF-I's and experienced jumpers you can about this before you try it? There might be some knowledge in one of their heads that could save a broken bone or two.BTW, have you condsidered how far a rig could drift with a .09:1 wing loading? Whats your recovery method for the rig?Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #8 March 10, 2002 I shared dinner and drinks with my S&TA last night...he thinks the rig will be fine with that light loading. As far as injuries go, I don't think that a slow opening right off the step will hurt my arms, as long as i pack the rig for a slow opening. The video shot is for the "un-initiated" among us...I realize that you would be gone before the image was witnessed in real life, but students would most definately get the message, don't you think?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #9 March 10, 2002 Quotebut students would most definately get the message, don't you think??Personally, I think students get that message without the dramatics... it seems to me that you are doing this for personal satisfaction, not for the benefit of any students... but of course, I could be wrong! Just be careful..."Men weren't meant to rideWith clouds between their knees"Five For Fighting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #10 March 10, 2002 Three of my siblings went to Murray. My grandparents lived in Paducah. I lived in Marion, IL. My sister married a guy from there. I was inspired to skydive by watching a four way team skydive into the football stadium while the horse (I forgot it's name) ran around the track.As for your stunt...just enjoy the skydive man. No reason to prove anything.Kachink,ChromeBoy-Mirage G3 Unisyn- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 March 10, 2002 QuotePersonally, I think students get that message without the dramatics... As someone who is not far off student status, yes, we get the message without the dramatics. Thinking back, if I saw the video at the time of my AFF-1, I would have thought that the position you demonstrate is the exact position I will go into if I forgot to do up the chest strap. When you are there in the FJC, you are paying so much attention, and taking everything literally. You can only rely on what your instructor says, as you have nothing to really compare it to. So if my instructor told me that the sky would be orange, I likely would have believed him. As it was, I got fixated on where the snakes lived, and not wanting to land on them (go figure).And no, I am not gullible, but in that situation, I will take the "expert's" word on it because I cannot make any real assessments based on experience - I hadn't any experience yet. And not much more now! LOL....If you are doing it to demonstrate what will happen when a chest strap is not fastened, then keep it as true and accurate as you can.If you're doing it for shits and grins, I suppose my "I wish you wouldn't" will make no difference. But please post ASAP so we know you're o.k. *Disclaimer: I am not YOUR mother. I just sound like it on the 'net*....Ciels and Pinks-MicheleIf you really want to, you can seize the day; if you really want to, you can fly away...~enya~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #12 March 10, 2002 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not YOUR mother. I just sound like it on the 'net* We need people like you from keeping us from doing something stupid!Kachink,ChromeBoy-Mirage G3 Unisyn- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #13 March 10, 2002 my goal is to track thrue an open helicopter :)what can i say im goen to be an old man but i will do it eventuallythe only thing you learn at school is to memorize Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #14 March 10, 2002 ...the horse's name is "dunker"! :)Murray State now has a skydiving club, "Racer Relativity"The jump is for a new student video, but it is also going to be a blast! I appreciate everyone's concern about the jump. This is a cool community we have here."without pushing our limits, we will never realize our potential"A.T. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #15 March 10, 2002 Quotemy goal is to track thrue an open helicopter :) Just watch out for that rear rotor, my friend!"Men weren't meant to rideWith clouds between their knees"Five For Fighting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #16 March 10, 2002 **I'm going to do a cool-ass stunt tomorrow...jump out with a rig in my arms(arms routed through the leg straps)**i'm going to ask you to do me a personal favor, but in the end, you'll do whatever your going to do. but consider the impression of "newbies" in our sport, if they see you do this successfully, how long before they want to try it? i don't even know you, but we just lost one "brother" today, so reconsider.Richard"Gravity Is My Friend" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #17 March 10, 2002 Richard,Not sure what to say about the newbies...they'll do what they are allowed to, and nothing more...at least that's at my DZ. Your words of caution are good to hear and i will be extra careful. Just keep in mind that this isn't a spur of the moment thing, but a planned jump that will result in great video and a great experience for me as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #18 March 10, 2002 Quote I'm going to do a cool-ass stunt tomorrow...= "Hey y'all, watch this..."Also make sure you consider the presentation of this example to students so you don't scare them away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #19 March 10, 2002 Quote"Hey y'all, watch this..."no no no....it's "hey y'all, hold my beer and watch this" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #20 March 10, 2002 I thought the famous last words were "Hey, what does this handle do??" :) I will post soon to let you guys know how it goes.A.T. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #21 March 10, 2002 Just watch out for that rear rotor, my friend!nah ill shoot it out first. More of a challenge if the thing is spinning aroung :)the only thing you learn at school is to memorize Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #22 March 11, 2002 Time to tell us you're o.k., now......MicheleIf you really want to, you can seize the day; if you really want to, you can fly away...~enya~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #23 March 11, 2002 The stunt went well and there weren't any "newbies" out there to give a bad impression to. Bad news, however, is that after i let go of the rig (thankfully an OLD one used for water jumps), it stayed inflated and flew MILES off the DZ...The canopy was olive green and we have yet to see it...DOOH! Expensive stunt(+/-$400), but what an AWESOME video shot!! Everyone at the dz,(including me) was very surprised that I held on to it during and after deployment. Oh well, guess i will scale down my jumping until i can replace their old rig! A.T.p.s. thanks all for your concerns and advice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #24 March 11, 2002 You'll be posting the video soon, right?!?JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #25 March 11, 2002 Did'nt I even ask you about the recovery of a rig at a .09:1 wingloading?? Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
