jcbfly 1 #1 March 27, 2014 Hello riggers, I'm looking for a rigger well versed in packing PEP's in the OK City area. Thanks, JC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #2 March 28, 2014 This is the first time I think I've seen someone qualify their rigger request on someone knowledgeable on PEP's. Of course with Dave DeWolf not including rounds in his base senior course it is appropriate.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 61 #3 March 28, 2014 WTF? Dewolf doesn't teach rounds? Are you serious? I don't even know where to start on how wrong that is. I recall a motion to repeal the military experience qualification at PIA based on lack of familiarity with squares. This is the same issue from the other side. How can you be a Rigger with out knowing how to pack a parachute? What happens when a butler walks in and they close the diaper wrong and kill the fuck out of some one. There is no such thing as a Half Back rating. Lee LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 March 28, 2014 Hee! Hee! Maybe the FAA is a few years behind the fashions. Other - more advanced nations (Canada, France and Switzerland) - certify young riggers to pack round OR square canopies. For example, the last course I taught in Switzerland included 4 skydivers who were only interested in learning how to pack square reserves into modern (1-pin) skydiving containers. OTOH the pair of glider pilots were only interested in packing rounds into PEPs. The different groups wrote different exams. The skydivers had to answer a couple of pages of questions about AADs and 3-Rings, which were not on the glider pilot's exam. Meanwhile the glider pilots had to answer a bunch of questions about round canopies, that were not on the skydivers' version of the exam. The different groups graduated with different ratings, issued by Swiss Skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 March 28, 2014 When you meet that rigger, how are you going to interview him ... to evaluate his expertise? What is the oldest PEP you have packed? Do you like Phantoms? Can you certify a Phantom as "acid free?" Do you know how to replace broken springs in Quick Ejector Snaps? What type of closing loops do you install in Security Safety-Chutes? Can you tighten up the loose, third pin on my Para-Cushion back-type PEP? How do you prevent the pilot-chute from shifting sideways and poking me in my delicate back-side? Can you dye these faded shoulder straps to match the rest of my PEP? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 March 28, 2014 riggerrob When you meet that rigger, how are you going to interview him ... to evaluate his expertise? What type of closing loops do you install in Security Safety-Chutes? This must be a trick question. The right answer is "I don't pack Security Safety-Chutes."I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 March 28, 2014 riggerrob When you meet that rigger, how are you going to interview him ... to evaluate his expertise? What type of closing loops do you install in Security Safety-Chutes? This must be a trick question. The right answer is "I don't pack Security Safety-Chutes, all of which ar 30 years old or older."I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #8 March 29, 2014 ... just another way of phrasing: "What is the oldest chute you will repack?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #9 March 31, 2014 OK, now that all the grumpy old riggers have chimed in about how shocking it is that today's riggers can't pack a round parachute…can somebody actually help me out with the name of a rigger in the OK City area that is well versed in packing PEP's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #10 April 1, 2014 jcbflyOK, now that all the grumpy old riggers have chimed in about how shocking it is that today's riggers can't pack a round parachute…can somebody actually help me out with the name of a rigger in the OK City area that is well versed in packing PEP's? Is it a back or seat type?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #11 April 1, 2014 Thanks for your response! It's a back rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #12 April 1, 2014 Try contacting the DZO at OSC. http://www.oklahomaskydiving.com/index.html I believe he will be able to help you out. They're an hour-ish outside of the city but he may know someone in the city."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
