Billy 0 #1 March 1, 2002 Hay all,,want'a get a helmet and want some advice,, read some stuff and lotta +/-'s for some of what I'm considering,, want a full face with a flip up visor,, since most of ya read here more than the other forums and I want it in time for Eloy at Easter I'm runnin outta time,, so what ya think??...Thanks for any input,,,BillyDon't read this shit down here,, it's nonsense,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 March 1, 2002 Z1Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #3 March 1, 2002 The Oxygen is more expensive but the quality is just so much better. I say skip over the Z1 and drop the extra dough for the Oxygen. You can read my review of the Z1 under the "Gear" tab. I regretted buying my Z1 from about 20 jumps._AmICQ: 5578907MSN Messenger: andrewdmetcalfe at hotmail dot com Yahoo IM: ametcalf_1999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #4 March 1, 2002 HAVOK...ugly, expensive, but works great....marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #5 March 1, 2002 Oxygn or Havok. Personally I don't like the Oxygn A3; too easy to lose your audible out of the outside mounting. The Havok is kinda fiddly, but you can mount an audible inside or two outside and it will work with glasses. I haven't jumped one so I'm not sure how good the peripheral vision is with the front flipped up. Bonehead and Skysystems both do an excellent job with customer service.The newer Z1's aren't bad but Parasport Italia customer service sucks; as long as you never have a problem with the helmet it's okay...pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AiRpollUtiOn 0 #6 March 1, 2002 All I can tell you about is the Z1.For me it's the most comfy of the lot.Parasport Italia isn't so good in the field of customer service, but I don't think that's necessary fo'r these helmets, they are of good quality so what do you need them for after purchase???The only problem I experienced in the beginning was an irritating noise when opening/closing the visor, but this is fixed in one minute, just adjust the visor screws, sometimes they're too tight Will jump for beer, bs AiRpollUtiOn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albatross 0 #7 March 1, 2002 Duhh!!! Demo them at Square 2. You will never knwo which one you like best unless you try them. I got an Oxygen A3 on reputation and I love it but I know people that each helmet fits well and others that it does not. TRY THEM ALL.God bless us and God Bless AmericaAlbatross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E150 0 #8 March 1, 2002 Z1 - but if you order it from parasports be prepared to wait! Better if you can get one off the shelf at a DZ gear store. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #9 March 1, 2002 QuoteZ1 - but if you order it from parasports be prepared to wait! Better if you can get one off the shelf at a DZ gear store. SkyKat (http://www.skykat.com) had the best price i could find when I ordered mine a few months ago. I payed $249 including shipping, while most gear stores seem to sell it for $259 BEFORE shipping (or tax or whatever). No problems with them and it shipped pretty quickly.Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADRNALN 0 #10 March 1, 2002 Bonehead HAVOK.They have awesome customer service!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #11 March 1, 2002 I think the Z1 is a really great helmet. Its visor is more rigid than Oxygen's and can even with stand being open in free fall. I have NEVER had any problems with mine and that includes over 100 RW and 100 free fly jumps. I think with most things in skydiving it is all personal preference so if you can try both and see which you like the best.Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #12 March 1, 2002 I have a used Oxygen. Bought it in almost new condition for $120 off of the classifieds on this site. I am completely happy with it. It is comfortable, durable, and a great helmet all around. Look for a used one. Haven't really messed with any others though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokeneagle 0 #13 March 1, 2002 Demo as many as you can- choose from there.Brokeneagle. I'm really very gentle, no matter what my kung-fu teacher says... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #14 March 1, 2002 Arrgghh!!Thanks Dave for that link,, and all for your input,, my problem is being in Spokane,, cant try shit on,, checked Square1's website and looks like they don't carry the Z1 or the Havok,, and I have a,, a big "head" otay no referance to the other thread about that one Clay...,, need an XXL and haven't seen any of those on any of the used gear sites,, have a Pro Dytter so how does that fit in the Oxygn.. Talked with "Ralph" South of Portland and he has some Z-1's coming but doesn't know where they are,,, customs maybe,, and he sounds like he is very willing to work with me on getting one that fits well,,, but do have some concerns after reading the reviews about how well they're made and falling apart,,, so WTF!!Don't read this shit down here,, it's nonsense,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #15 March 1, 2002 Quotemy problem is being in SpokaneThat's a problem for most people..."I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #16 March 1, 2002 Damn Clay,,Spokane is a nice place ta live,, great skiing, hunting, fishing, climbing, not too much crime even if it's a hot spot for Meth labs and the Aryans who live across the border in Idaho,, which is 20 yrs behind the rest of the USA in,, well anything,, but ya I can't try on on friggin helmet!! it's fuckin cold now,, we get 3 months of relatives an 9 months of Winter it seems like,, so we have our lil price ta pay,, you been here before haven't ya?!?Don't read this shit down here,, it's nonsense,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #17 March 1, 2002 Check the website again... Square One carries the Havok, it's on the helmet page ya just have to wait for it to load then scroll waaaaaay down.... No Z1's though; we like to work with companies that take care of our customers as well as we try to pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #18 March 1, 2002 Quoteyou been here before haven't ya?!?Stationed at Fairchild for 3 years. My ex-wife is from there. I spent the summer there in 99. Well....not weekends. I drove to the house in Montana for those. Just to get out of the dump. The women are easy, the hunting sucks(if you have to hunt public land), I snowboarded my ass off everywhere from Canada to Idaho. Went down the Snake and Salmon in a raft for 4 days. Some decent fishing around there I guess. None of it comes close to Montana though. Except the women....no women most places in Montana. Missoula is the exception....Too many damn people in Spokane...."I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #19 March 1, 2002 Thanks Lisa,,""scroll waaaaaay down.... "" LOL,,, Oh jeeze!! Haven't had lovin since yesterday but that,, umm,, makes me melt!! I'm goin down,,, to ,, what was this thread about??.... Don't read this shit down here,, it's nonsense,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spectrejumper 0 #20 March 2, 2002 Quote,, and I have a,, a big "head" otay no referance to the other thread about that one Clay...,, need an XXL and haven't seen any of those on any of the used gear sites,,Unless Skysystems finally wised up, they don't make the Oxygn in XXL. Some bogus XL.5 or somethin. I ended up getting a Factory Diver. The Z1 also will not fit if you truly need a XXL. I had to send mine back, then wait forever for my Factory Diver. It doesn't have the flip up visor, so I took out the lens and I just wear goggles under the helmet. I've found Sorz goggles work the best for doing this. The big plus of the whole deal is that the Factory Diver is a lot cheaper. Good luck finding a brain bucket. Mike D-23312"It's such a shame to spend your time away like this...existing." JMH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #21 March 2, 2002 When were ya here Clay an what did ya do there?I been here since about '85,, I'm curious,, did ya see the B-52 auger in or the shootings at the base hospital?? Send me a private message if ya like,,,,, wasn't that long ago Wallace ID and the State Line had legal ,, ummm,, well you know,,, Don't read this shit down here,, it's nonsense,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #22 March 2, 2002 Billy, if ya can't get the right fit, try this: get one of those big' old clamato juice cans, cut the top off, bash it around with a hammer for a while, then finish it off with the handyman's helper -- duct tape! (can ya paint over that stuff???),At least ya'd be easy to find in Kamloops! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #23 March 2, 2002 Kamloops. That town is just too damn funny.All Hail the Royal Canadian Air Farce. _AmICQ: 5578907MSN Messenger: andrewdmetcalfe at hotmail dot com Yahoo IM: ametcalf_1999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #24 March 2, 2002 QuoteKamloops. That town is just too damn funny.Maybe so, but their 35th annual boogie is less than 3 months away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
