rifleman 70 #1 April 16, 2014 Not strictly skydiving related - but I find myself in the position of needing a new sewing machine. It needs to handle multiple layers of heavy coutil fabric but also more delicate materials like lace and satin. It should also have adjustable stitch length as most of the seams I make are sewn once at 12 stitches per inch then oversewn at 8 stitches per inch. If it has the ability to do straight, zigzag and buttonhole then so much the better. Thanks in advance for any advice.Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 April 16, 2014 Button hole is going to make it more of a consumer machine if you want an all in one machine. I love my Singer 20u for a much larger heavy duty model.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #3 April 16, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=pfaff+238&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR9.TRC2.A0.H0.Xsinger+20u&_nkw=singer+20u&_sacat=0 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bernina-950-Zig-Zag-Freehand-Embroidery-Industrial-Sewing-Machine-Excellent-Con-/271443121385?pt=UK_CraftsCollect_SewingMachines_RL&hash=item3f334554e9 I don't know if you mean new to you or brand new. I wouldn't buy a brand new 20U. Quality suffers on Chinese made white ones. The link above is to an older blue one. All parts readily available. Compared to other prices on ebay uk looks like reasonable. Bernina 950 is a commercial type machine well thought of by some outside rigging and I believe will do your button holes. Pfaff 238 or Bernina 217 for used zig zag but none on ebay uk.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #4 April 16, 2014 Pfaff 138 or Bernina 217 - I generally steer away from the 20u's ~ used them for 6 years, owned 2 of them (blue and green), I find that even under 'best case' timing and maintenance, they do not keep bottom thread well regulated across a broad range of zigzag width and stitch length.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #5 April 17, 2014 I've got a Singer 143w2 that was made for sewing delicate fabrics... works just as well on a container. Doesn't do buttonholes though."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #6 April 17, 2014 councilman24 Pfaff 238 or Bernina 217 for used zig zag but none on ebay uk. If I were starting from scratch I'd probably start with a new Bernina 217n clone: http://www.globalsew.com/en/zz217.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #7 April 17, 2014 If you want a wide range of easy adj stitch l lengths, and one that is smooth as butter...A Singer 188K. Straight stitch only, and does NOT do zig zag and doubt it will do button holes either, but, it is a joy to sew with and will handle pretty heavy and never goes out of adjustment. It's like a modern day version of the famous 31-15, but with reverse. I have a longarm sewing machine- Adler Pfaff -and always have to do a bunch of adjusting when going back and forth from straight stitch to zig zag. I suspect most machines have this problem. I'd get a straight stitch and a zig zag and not try to go back and forth. that's my experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #8 April 21, 2014 Not to hijack this thread but.....has anyone had any experience with a Singer 401A? Pros? Cons? Not looking to use as a harness machine, just the occasional heavier-than-normal material. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 April 21, 2014 Not that I need one but is there a dealer for these in the U.S.? Didn't find one.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,372 #10 April 21, 2014 Hi ripcord, Quoteanyone had any experience with a Singer 401A I've used one a lot. I now have a 501A; they are virtually the same machine. It will do a lot of stuff, just not the heavy-duty stuff. But I did build an entire container with a 401A 'once'. Hmm, maybe more than 'once'. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #11 April 21, 2014 councilman24Not that I need one but is there a dealer for these in the U.S.? Didn't find one. These guys were willing to deal directly with me, so I ordered a whole cam system directly from them, then I took those parts to my local sewing machine guru for installation. Now he's a US dealer: http://granthousesewingmachines.com/Contact.htm There were a few small parts that I didn't know were needed for the conversion, because my 217n originally had a different cam system with some standard parts removed, so we're waiting for those bits to arrive. All parts received have been high quality and they fit correctly, so I'm happy so far. Direct contact for new machine heads: Joost Lamp joost@globalsew.com Direct contact for parts: Jeevan de Haan jeevan.globalparts@kpnmail.nl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites