homer 0 #1 December 20, 2001 They say any day at the DZ is better than a day at work. That I can agree with. I was at the DZ yesterday and living in south eastern WA, the winter months can be rather cold. To make a long story short it was 30F on the ground, so all the rain puddles from the night before were frozen and at 10,000 it was 15F. The colds not so bad I can handle 15F, it's the 120mph wind chill thats a BITCH! I'm glad they had heat on the ride up this time. So, the question is for you northern jumpers what's to cold for you. All you jumpers in the south FL, TX, AZ, and CA you still wearing tank tops and shorts when you jump? The swoop pond you can now ice skate on. As for me I have neropathy (ner-op-a-thee) a side effect of chemotherapy so when my hands freeze and I cant feel the hacky anymore it's too cold.Beware of the toes you step on today, for they may belong to the ASS you kiss tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabeln79 0 #2 December 20, 2001 If its too cold out there you can always do a HopNpop. Just keep all the skin covered i would rather jump and freeze for a couple of minutes in the air than not jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdDuck 0 #3 December 20, 2001 In Minnesota lately its been 20f on the ground and damn near 0 at altitude if not colder.The only part that sucks is the canopy ride.Last year we jumped when it was 3 degrees on the ground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #4 December 20, 2001 As stated above it is NEVER too cold to jump. The coldest temp I have jumped in was –8 degrees at altitude. Once last winter we flew around at 13000 for 20 minutes with the door open and the cockpit vent open trying to find a hole to jump though. That one was the coldest if you can imagine being in 15-degree weather with the door open and one hell of a draft we were all huddled together by the door looking for a hole. For jumping in cold weather I wear thermal underware and a turtle neck under my jump suit. Also a absolute must a full faced helmet.Blue skiesKirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 December 20, 2001 I've got a Poly-Pro bacalava (sp?) that I jump with when it's cold (sense I don't have a helmet, let alone a full-face). I use that and some poly-pro underware. Good stuff, mucho mucho warmo. Before I get flamed about "not cold" in Texas, it does. Not artic cold, but around north Texas a normal winter sees tempuratures around 10F (even though the high today was almost 70F...).AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BPO 0 #6 December 20, 2001 Quote Also a absolute must a full faced helmet.as for the sorry sob's without a full-face helmet (me!me!me!): apply a firm layer of vaseline on the exposed parts of your face, so your nose etc. won't freeze..Blue -and cold...- Skies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #7 December 20, 2001 Dont bring up vaseline...as clay might get turned on...MarcRes Firma Mitescere Nescite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3fLiEr 0 #8 December 20, 2001 You wanna try the UK ......... the coldest I have jumped is minus 30c at altitude (minus 22F) and this year looks cold.......... and I have an open face............ but still cant wait to the 26th, 27th 28th 29th 30th 31st and of course the 1st for the first jump of 2002................. even if my lips crack and bleed.......... as someone says I would rather be cold and jumpin' than cold and on the ground................ bsbd"In a world where we are slaves to gravity I am pleased to be a freedom fighter" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 0 #9 December 20, 2001 3fLiErIs Hinton going to be open over xmas or are you going abroard? I might be tempted to pop up there if it is.Nick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3fLiEr 0 #10 December 20, 2001 Nah its shut mate til 8th Jan or maybe weekend of the 5th..... cant remember - check out your PM dudebsbd"In a world where we are slaves to gravity I am pleased to be a freedom fighter" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaleThornton 0 #11 December 20, 2001 Hinton is apparently closed until the weekend of the 5th Jan 2002 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BPO 0 #12 December 20, 2001 RE: Dont bring up vaseline...as clay might get turned on...damn... I did think of adding a disclaimer.. ah well.. Must've forgotten... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #13 December 20, 2001 Quote as for the sorry sob's without a full-face helmet (me!me!me!): apply a firm layer of vaseline on the exposed parts of your faceIt also helps you get into tight formations like compressed accordions. The ROT that pilots use for the temperature lapse rate is 2 degrees per thousand feet. What I have found is when you get out high & cold, it doesn't seem that cold anymore once you get on the ground. No duh, huh? flyhi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #14 December 20, 2001 "as clay might get turned on..."There goes Justin with his Homo fantasies again..."Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #15 December 20, 2001 Quote There goes Justin Aww, hell, I wasn't even in this thread. Clay, I think the psychological term for what you are doing is "projection". When your deep-seated sexual identity insecurities overwhelm you, you look around for someone to project your emotions onto, thus freeing yourself of your lingering gender-crisis guilt by mentally transferring it to the other person. That will be $50. Please wipe off the therapy couch, Mr. Fowler! Now, what was this thread supposed to be about? Cold weather jumping? I'd say it is too cold to jump you land with frostbite. Haven't had that happen yet, so I couldn't tell you the temperature. JustinMy Homepage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #16 December 20, 2001 Sorry Justin....for once it wasn't you!!!! I guess it's become a reflex.......LOL......"Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #17 December 20, 2001 its to cold to jump when the plane cant take off, then its base time :-). What are you all winging about ppl have jumped into antartica and the north pole now that would be cold Click Me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joolee 0 #18 December 20, 2001 I jump and camp in Scotland all year round. In February this year I did a two way from 13,000ft and it was -36 degrees! I had apparently gone as white as a sheet and it was almost sore to breathe, but it wouldn't stop me doing it again. Although in a Cessna (with no door), I will usually get out at 5,000ft if it's really cold.Joolee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canopycudler 0 #19 December 20, 2001 It been pretty damn cold here.. but i'm with Joe.. I don't think it can be tooo cold to not jump at all. Even when its like 30 on the ground and like 10 at 14K. for me its just that sudden shock of getting out of the plane that kills me.. once in freefall, i forget about the 120mph windchill... under canopy is the BITCH..now that is when my hands ache.. Its all about the layers.. Long underwear.. T shirt.. shorts.. Turtleneck.. sweatshirt and jumpsuit.. and whatever you do.. don't forget the gloves.. one could say i look like the abominal snowman.. LOL.. its alllll good!!Blue Skies & Florida weather in a week!!Tina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #20 December 20, 2001 "...2 degrees per thousand feet..."Thats in Celcius by the way, it'd be about 3.5 degrees F. About a month ago I got to spend some time with Bill Booth of Relative Workshop, and he told us the story and showed us the pictures of his jump into the North Pole. If I remember right, he was one of the first to do it. All that snow and ice- talk about lack of depth perception... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinryan 0 #21 December 20, 2001 I have to agree with everyone else here that there is no such thing as too cold. Like ColdDuck I also jump in Mn and have never had a problem with the cold. This year has been unusually warm so the coldest I have jumped in is high twenties, low thirties on the ground. It is kinda cool to land on snow though. The view is also kinda neat from the air, especially when the snow is new and fresh, and you can get some really neat reflections and light paterns off the snow. As for staying warm, layering is the way to go, like canopycudler said. I also think that it is better to be too cold than too hot. I do not like packing when it is hot out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 December 20, 2001 "talk about lack of depth perception..."Danm......you get robbed of the ground rush!!! "Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #23 December 20, 2001 "Danm......you get robbed of the ground rush!!!"LOL, not necessarily- the polar bears get bigger and bigger and bigger....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #24 December 20, 2001 Quote talk about lack of depth perception..."Damn......you get robbed of the ground rush!!! Weren't there some people who paid the ultimate for that? Don't know the whole story. flyhi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #25 December 20, 2001 Hmm...dont know. Not on the jump Bill was describing to me....maybe another north pole jump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
