freeflir29 0 #26 December 20, 2001 "the polar bears get bigger and bigger and bigger......."Polar bear swooping......Now thats living on the edge!!!!"Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #27 December 20, 2001 I dunno, I personally wouldnt want to piss one off. I'm reasonably sure one of those could outrun me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #28 December 20, 2001 Not to steal Bill Booth's thunder, but a guy who still jumps at Pitt Meadows did a static-line jump onto the North Pole back in the 1960s. JP was a Combat Engineer serving in the Canadian Armed Forces when they were asked to support a geological expedition to assert Canada's claim on the high Arctic. JP spent a few weeks at the North Pole bulldozing runways, setting up tents, refueling tent heaters, that sort of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #29 December 20, 2001 Hmm...didnt know that. Well, i guess Bill can claim the first freefall jump onto it then.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #30 December 20, 2001 Oh yeah, and I think there were two tandems on that jump. With some russian guys, if I remember right.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #31 December 20, 2001 "I'm reasonably sure one of those could outrun me"You only have to run faster than the slowest person......"Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grogs 0 #32 December 20, 2001 QuoteIn reply to:talk about lack of depth perception..."Damn......you get robbed of the ground rush!!! Weren't there some people who paid the ultimate for that? Don't know the whole story. Yep. There was a 4-way that went died in Antartica in '95. Actually, only 3 of them died. The lack of depth perception probably played a big part in the fatalities. Also, from reading the fatality reports on skydive.net, the field elevation where they were jumping into was 9000', so it's very possible they had problems calibrating their altimeters/dytters/cypreses to that landing elevation. The Cypres only adjusts to 5000' above the take-off field altitude if I remember correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #33 December 20, 2001 "altimeters/dytters/cypreses"The alti shouldn't have been too big of a problem. As long as the maps are accurate you simply adjust in the difference from where you took off. On the others.....I wouldn't have used those in that situation......But......what do I know with 111 jumps......"Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grogs 0 #34 December 20, 2001 QuoteThe alti shouldn't have been too big of a problem. As long as the maps are accurate you simply adjust in the difference from where you took off. On the others.....I wouldn't have used those in that situation......But......what do I know with 111 jumps......Depends on the conditions. I went back and reread the article and the details are a bit sketchy, so all we can do is conjecture. But, if for example, the plane took off at a field with a barometric pressure of 30in, and the DZ was at a pressure of 29, even if they set their altimeters to adjust for the altitude, it would still be reading ~1000' higher than the actual altitude. As for the Cypres and Dyter, it depends on the difference in field altitude since they work on AGL rather than MSL. If the take-off and landing are the same altitude, they'll work (in theory) regardless of the field altitude. The Cypres has an adjustment for +/- 5000' between the take-off and landing and take-off sites, but as far as I know, the Dyter doesn't.Also, in re-reading the article, hypoxia was mentioned as a possible cause of the incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #35 December 20, 2001 All true....I just read an article about several plane crashes that were contributed to severe changes in barometric pressure between T/O and landing airports.....Don't know how much ATIS info exists in those regions....."Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #36 December 20, 2001 Hay Homer,,, where you at?? Wally World,, Clarkston?? Should come up and jump with us next year in Spokane, (actually Davenport,, ) I wear the same stuff in the Winter I do Skiing,, layers and one piece ski suit,,, it's not the jump that is cold,, it's the friggin packin that bites!! Can't wait ta do a full moon jump with snow on the ground!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 #37 December 20, 2001 Sorry Homer,,just saw that you're in Kennewick,, thats not South East Wa,, I thought the only survivor of the South Pole jump was the one with a Cypress.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #38 December 20, 2001 "Davenport"Fine town that is.......LOL.....At least the women are easy in Spokane........"Carb Heat On....Carb Heat On.....Carb Heat On..."-Phil Polstra Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #39 December 20, 2001 For me niether the free fall or the canopy ride is really cold due to all the adrenaline pumping through me. Its when I land and start to wrap up my chute is when the pain sets in!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #40 December 21, 2001 Polar bear rodeo now thats an idea.Beware of the toes you step on today, for they may belong to the ASS you kiss tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #41 December 31, 2001 My personal limit is 35 degrees on the ground. It used to be higher, but I was smarter then.CorporateLawyerDave aka BadDog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites