sangiro 25 #1 November 25, 2001 .....no not that kind of flame! If profanity offends...please don't read further.I'm thinking of starting a "hate mail" page like the one I've seen on some other sites...hehehee! Anyway, the latest is from mister rgoper. You guys will remember, he's the guy who decided to take some pot-shots at clintonradloff's disability and then got his hand slapped...anyway, he sent me his memoirs.I'll summarize it for you and then you can read it yourself if you have the stomach. He basically started a nice laid back conversation with a dizzy display of ignorance which included a brief discussion about his financial status and a promise to start his own Country Club. Then proceeded with another jab at my "soft spot" for disabled people, we briefly discuss the politics of Fascism, then took a little detour into his own homophobia (in which he refers to my "British Ass", which I take exception to as mine is an "African Ass"!) and rounded it off with him laying out my family tree... I then wrote a rather brief note to him explaining that he had hurt my feelings and warning him that his emails may be published. (which he should not have a problem with as he admits in his own email to wanting to post it to the forums)We, seems like he actually changed his mind and opted to threaten me with all kinds of legal action. Anyway, I thought I'd publish it anyway. Being a skydiver and all I scare really easily....Mr. rgoper should know that.... Here we go:rgoper wrote:QuoteHey, Mr. Sangiro:I Saw Thread That You Went Back And Locked Out. I Don't Have A Problem With That. What I Do Have A Problem With, Is You Going Back, And Adding Posts That I Deleted That I Had Written. You May Be H.N.I.C. On This Cheezy Little Forum, But That's Hardly Even A Fraction Of The WWW. So You Play "King" And Have It Your Way, I Could Give A Shit. Those Klowns The Other Night Attacked Me For Saying What Was On My Mind, And I Noticed That This Same B.S. Goes On In Your Forum Often, Don't Single Me Out, And Don't Hand Me This Horse Shit About Getting Complaints About Me Either, Cause Again, I Could Give A Shit. What You, Your Co-Horts, Comrads, Cliques And Asshole Buddies Got Going Is Your Deal, And Ya'll Can Fucking Have It, I Will NEVER, EVER Post On Your Cheezy Forum Again. Block My URL, Cause I'll Say It A 3rd Time, I Could Give A Shit! You Cliques, Buddies, Assholes, And Skygods Have Myself, And A Few Of My Friends Wanting To Establish Our Own "Country Club" It's Suckasses Like You, And Your Cute Little Buddies With Ther'e Fancy Little Websites, Low Time Jumpers With High Tech Equipment That Will Soon Be Someone's Undoing At Some Point Or Another. You Have A Softspot In Your Hearts For Retards, I Don't. I Respect Your Opinion, Yet I'm Oppressed By You Faschism, That's Fine, Keep Your Little Forum. Hopefully That's Not All You Have Going For You, Cause If It Is, It's Causing You An Inferioty Complex. I Don't Like To Brag About My Income, But I Buy And Sell Creatures Like You And Your Buddies Every Day Before Breakfast. So Your Reign Over Your Insugnificant Little Website, Have You Fun, And While Your At It, Go Straight To Hell. Take You "Cliques" With You, I Ain't Sucking Your Ass, You Better Be Glad I Looked For A Place To PM You, Or I Would Have Written This On The Forum. All Those Idiots Do, Is Sit Up Every Night....DRUNK, And Look For Somebody To Fuck With, I Realized That, After, And Personally Deleted My Post, Then You Go Back, And Re-Post The Ones I Deleted, What A Fucking DICK! Fuck You! And Your Bullshit Forum, Job It Up You Fucking British Ass, Dick! I Don't Need It, Or You. You Make Me Fucking Sick! You Poor Pathetic Son Of A Bitch. And You Are Insignificant Around Payday Time For Me, I Don't Need You, You Suckass Bitch.sangiro wrote:QuoteUmmm...I didn't add anything back that you deleted. Thanks for the nice note. Consider all correspondence between us open and I'll publish it if I feel like it.Feel free to move on if you don't like it around. I've been called names before (and I'm sure I will be again) - to bad you had to waste all your time writing such a long email as this stuff rolls off me like water off a duck's back....Safe swoopsSangirorgoper replied:QuoteYou Publish Any PM's Between Us, I Gaurente You'll Be Speaking To One, Or More Attorneys. Give It A Whirl, You Inviting Litigation? If It Posted In A "Public" Forum, It's One Thing, I Think You'd Be Well Advised To Reconsider Before Publishing Any "Private" E-Mails. You'd Have A Hard Time Making A Case In A Court Of Law, Because I Went To The Trouble Of Adding The Fact That I Sought A Private Forum To Tell You How I Feel, With NO PERMISSION, Or Consent From Me To Publish Elsewhere. But You Go Ahead, Make My Day! I Could Use The Extra Money, And The Scandal Would Do Your Forum A Lot Of Good, Think Of All That Negative Press! It's Not Like I Didn't Consult Legal Counsil Before I Sent This To You. But You Go Right Ahead. Hope You Have A Good 401K Program. And As Far As You Saying You Didn't Add Anything Back That I Deleted, Your Alledging That You Are A Liar. I Deleted All But 3 Posts My Self, AND Went To The Trouble To "Copy, And Paste" Afterwards. Coincidence, Accident, Software Flaw? Personally, I Could Care Less What The People On Your Forums Carry On About, And I Could Care Less What They Think About Me, I Went A Whole Year Without Posting...Period, So What You Think, And What They Think Is Like "Water Off A Ducks Back" To Me. It's Not Like Your Going To Keep Me From Sky Diving!sangiro replied:QuoteYou can speak to as many attorneys as you like... your PM is in my forums right now!Safe swoopsSangiroNow, that's how far we've come. I have to admit that his email actually looked better than the post above, he did highlight some of the sentences red and bold! I'm sure there will be more and if Mr rgoper gets his way I may be writing you from Alcatraz next time! Anyway, I'll keep you posted.Any attorneys in the crowd who will represent me 'pro bono"? I have no money but I have some unused jump tickets.... Will you guys bail me out? Safe swoopsSangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #2 November 25, 2001 hey mr. big man:You Asked For It, Brace Yourself. Hope You've Enjoyed Your Tenure At Dropzone. I'm On This First Thing Tomorrow Morning. If I Were You, I'd Have Written, Express Permission To Publish, Forged Or Whatever, But I'd Have It. Talk About Me Showing My Ignorance. Look How Far You'll Go Just To Flame Your Own Forum, And "Stoke The Fires" Wanna Talk About "Getting Sucked In" Whew! Your Ass Is In A Crack. All The Hate Mail Your Going To Obtain From This Is Not Going To Affect Me One Little Bit, Your The One It's Going To Hurt, Me Ignorant....RAT TRAP! It's A Word, Look It Up! And Mine Just Went SNAP! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RemiAndKaren 0 #3 November 25, 2001 QuoteI Will NEVER, EVER Post On Your Cheezy Forum Againdammm.. that didnt last long....RemiMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #4 November 25, 2001 RGOPER,Hey dude, fuck off and die. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen. Are you sure you are not the incarnation of Chris Sayre, AKA: Spectre230?Chuck BlueD-12501I-2001, TM-I, professional swooper, and general man-about- town. Skydiving since you were shitting green.Raeford Parachute Center, NCMy webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 25 #5 November 25, 2001 Dude, I'm going to give you some advice that all your corporate lawyers won't...The first rule of holes: When you're in one, stop digging!Safe swoopsSangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #6 November 25, 2001 QuoteAre you sure you are not the incarnation of Chris Sayre, AKA: Spectre230?No he's for real. "Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #7 November 25, 2001 I hear you, Ted. My webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 November 25, 2001 Bossman,If ya get any flack over this let me know and I'll give a few lawyer frineds a call. Granted they only work for Fortune 1000 companies and not Fortune 50 companies like what he must own, but they might be willing to offer free advice none the less.So... how should I feel about being able to be bought and sold before breakfest everyday? Personally.... I'm happy about it.... It means he can inherit the debt I've managed to rack up in the last year. Lets see.... Rig, Jump tickets,School, Car payment, Rent, Bills...... Not bad for only being 21 I'm not sure what to put here right now..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 25 #9 November 25, 2001 Hehehe!Hey guys, don't stoop. Have fun with it if you want, there are few things sharper than a bit of wit and sarcasm, but don't stoop...Safe swoopsSangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkearns 0 #10 November 25, 2001 Ahh, he's probly mad they closed his bus stop. Now he has no place to suck dick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #11 November 25, 2001 I WOULD read and evaluate and join in the making-fun, but...I can't READ anything that long where every single fucking word is capitalized. What is he, a headline writer for the New York Times or something?Oh well, I'll assume it's moronic.Also, I took media law in college. You can't be sued. Alex wants to see you bleed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #12 November 25, 2001 QuoteWhat You, Your Co-Horts, Comrads, Cliques And Asshole Buddies Got Going Is Your Deal, And Ya'll Can Fucking Have It Look! I made a clique, or I'm a comrad (whatever that is), or at least a Co-hort and/or an Asshole buddy. Just what I always wanted to be!!! Thanks, groper, for giving me my place in the universe. I am found!!!!!QuoteBlock My URL, Cause I'll Say It A 3rd Time, I Could Give A Shit! Now, there's an idea!QuoteYou Cliques, Buddies, Assholes, And Skygods Have Myself, And A Few Of My Friends Wanting To Establish Our Own "Country Club" what happened to comrad? Does Skygod(ess) translate to Comrad? QuoteLow Time Jumpers With High Tech Equipment I guess Protec and Altimaster II's are hightech.....so is rental equipment and a huge 210 chute...QuoteYou Have A Softspot In Your Hearts For Retards, I Don't. That's cause you don't have a heart. You're the Tin Man. QuoteI Respect Your Opinion, Yet I'm Oppressed By You Faschism What's faschism? Fascism under alcoholic influence?QuoteCausing You An Inferioty Complex well, at least Sangiro can spell!QuoteI Don't Like To Brag About My Income, But I Buy And Sell Creatures Like You And Your Buddies Every Day Before Breakfast Slavery? Buying and selling people? Wasn't that constitutionally banned, like, a long time ago?QuoteI Ain't Sucking Your Ass, You Better Be Glad I Looked For A Place To PM You, Or I Would Have Written This On The Forum Actually, this destroys any case you might have. It indicates that you would have been happy to have this public, which Sangiro provided for you... (as groper is hoisted on his on petard...) QuoteAll Those Idiots Do, Is Sit Up Every Night....DRUNK, And Look For Somebody To Fuck With. You mean you did this sober? What the fuck are you like drunk? QuoteWhat A Fucking DICK! Fuck You! And Your Bullshit Forum, Job It Up You Fucking British Ass, Dick! Hey, Sangiro, this one is beyond me. What's "job it up you fucking british ass"? Reconstructed, it would make sense, as in "job it up(,) you fucking british ass"; correctly spelled, it would be "j(a)b it up you(r) fucking british ass".....And I just have to ask: can a guy shove his own dick up his own ass? as in "job it up you fucking british ass, Dick...."Quote It's Not Like I Didn't Consult Legal Counsil Cool, now consult a dictionary. Or at least use the spell check which Sangiro has provided. QuoteYour Alledging That You Are A Liar. Uh, he can't allege he's a liar. If this is the result of consulting Legal "Counsil", you have a problem. QuoteIt's Not Like Your Going To Keep Me From Sky Diving! your obvious stupidity might.actually, groper, you seem to forget that you threatened, and continued to threaten, two people on these boards with physical harm. And one was a woman. So, groper seems to be physically violent, homophobic, mysophiliac, and mysoginistic, with a huge dose of wanker inferiority, and definitely has trouble expressing himself in coherent sentences. Yep, we got us a weiner.... Take me on, groper. I'm a woman. Try to "knock (my) teeth in". "What of the dreams that never die? Turn to your left at the end of the sky". ~e e cummings~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #13 November 25, 2001 Quote..so is rental equipment and a huge 210 chute...I dont think my 210 is huge....now the 280 navigator I learned on and learned to pack with WAS huge....MarcRes Firma Mitescere Nescite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NathanL100 0 #14 November 25, 2001 Quote So, groper seems to be physically violent, homophobic, mysophiliac, and mysoginistic, with a huge dose of wanker inferiority, and definitely has trouble expressing himself in coherent sentences. Yep, we got us a weiner.... Take me on, groper. I'm a woman. Try to "knock (my) teeth in". Hehehehe... groper you just got your ass handed to you on a silver platter!!! Blue Ones,NathanA# 39553 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #15 November 25, 2001 QuoteHehehehe... groper you just got your ass handed to you on a silver platter!!! problem is its kinda hard to hand someone there ass when they are an ass....MarcRes Firma Mitescere Nescite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diver123 0 #16 November 25, 2001 Sorry guys! I had no idea this fella would take things this far... It's my duty to inform each and every one of you of the following factual information:groper a.k.a. "The walking dictionary" is, in fact, the toughest guy in the United States. Please do not try to handle him by yourself. He's informed me of these things personally and I've since done the smart thing and refrain from antagonizing him any further...! Okay, okay, I was just foolin! I wasn't going to further this any more, but the temptation is too great! I think we should setup one of those little dunk booth things, except instead of throwing a ball at the little target, we should string him up like a pinata and take turns beating him with a bat... I got dibs on being first in line...!!! "pull high! It's lower than you think..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #17 November 25, 2001 I am still pretty darn upset about what Mr Groper wrote about me. But, attacks on persons who are my friends bother me way more than the crap he wrote regarding myself. I guess he would not approve of AirAnn.com helping people who are less fortunate either. The only reason I am not out at the DZ right now taking on the 'challenge dive' he threw down at Zennie is, I went into low bank funds doing my charity thing. However, I feel like sharing the wonderful world of skydiving with other people, but that is my thing. Quotewatch your mouth, it will come back to haunt you, trust me. you know where i'm at, come and get me! Well, I question my exposing good people to this person. If in the future he continues to jump at Waller, I will take my business and my charity stuff elsewhere. I personally, can take anything he dishes out. But if I have a person who I am introducing to skydiving... I would prefer not to immediately run into the Gropers of this world. It is really a shame we have this guy right smak dab in the middle of one of my dz's. It messes up all the good karma that this dropzone is known for. Quotedoesn't matter WHO you are, or how many thousands of dollars of equipment your wearing, or how many websites we have to promote our friends/causes/issues/egos/etc... you and i have known each other a long time, we've jumped out of the same plane a lot of times, have you ever witnessed me in a mean spirited manner/demeanor?I do 'know' this person. And we have in fact, been on many a same load. Up and until the day he posted here, I had no issues with him or anyone else. I have never done a skydive with him due to the fact that I freefly and he is off before me. But I have checked his pins. If asked I will check them again accurately as if they were a disabled persons or my own. I do not know and can not fathom what Richards agenda is here with his postings. I know his wife to be a wonderful individual and I thought he was decent as well. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt. As I would anyone. The last time I saw him.. I had a bad skydive and was leaving the dropzone totally upset. I wasnt talking to anyone at that moment and I was totally whacked about my issue with myself. So I opted to go home. I saw Richard out of the corner of my eye. I had never known him to jump at this DZ before so I backed up to say hello and to welcome him to Waller. He said he liked it and would continue to jump there. I havent seen him there since. But I am sure he jumps there if he says he does. I am very sorry for what has happened here regarding Richard. He does not represent this dropzone, or any person who jumps there, nor any persons in Texas. We are not like this in Texas. We also do not generally attempt to come into this forum or anywhere else and pick a skyfight. Regarding what he has said about me, Slappy, Zennie, and now Sangrio, and others - I have no idea what is up with him. But, I think we have all had enough of it. He was asked nicely by 2nd in command to take it to wreck dot. He continues to make foul remarks and drag other persons names into his mess. All of us mentioned have been nice to him. I think that is pretty much over. I think this drama is outrageous. I would not like to come into this place and get trashed. I expect my friends do not either. If I did, I would be at wreck dot. At least I could help get someone their ALF#.Although I totally enjoyed Sangrios post, Skydive~Friends~HappinessAirAnnhttp://www.AirAnn.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #18 November 25, 2001 Dude....WTFO? Sorry I got in this fun so late. I think someone has a very small penis and is rather upset about his misfortune. Wow, Rgoper has "Legal Counsil" What is that anyway??? I think this guy is headed right to the top......Of the TOOL pile. Maybe we should give out "Tool" numbers kinda like ALF's on Rec. I guess rgoper would have to be #2 since "someone" else got to the number one spot a while back. "Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #19 November 25, 2001 Since it seems rgroper wants to compare the size of his dick with everyone else, I'll throw mine in the ring.The overall lack of maturity on rgroper's part is mind-blowing. If he has worked hard enough to be as successful in his personal life as he tries to say he is, then it would seem that he would have better things to do then sit around an online forum that has a generally good vibe with some really great people and try to have flame wars. If you have a personal problem with an individual on the forum, drop them a personal message. However, leave the "playground threats" out of the conversation. Present your opinion in an intelligent manner and you will be replied to in kind; moreover, if, during your discourse you must act like a self asorbed asshole, then don't bother. With the current state of the general media today, I can listen to, read or watch more then enough of this mindless babble without having to endure it here in my nice online community. Idle threats have never impressed me and will continue not to impress me, as with most of DZ.com's community. Personally, I have no tolerance for people like you. You and people like you stain the fabric which represents my great nation. Voicing your opinion, in a respectful meaningful manner is the American way, viciously attacking someone, their beliefs or their values is NOT.If you disagree or want to discuss this more, then drop me a PM, or you can catch me next time I'm at Waller. I'm the big guy with the military haircut driving the truck that has "Aggie Skydiving" across the windshield. I will be more then happy to have a constructive/mature conversation with you to discuss any number of the points raised in the forums; however, be warned, I have NO tolerance for any personal attacks verbally or otherwise directed towards myself, my beliefs, my values, my friends, my friends' beliefs or my friends' values.AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #20 November 25, 2001 QuoteIt messes up all the good karma that this dropzone is known for.Heh. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just continue to put out the good vibes Ann, don't pay any mind to those that put out the negative Karma. Karma has a way sorting things out. Put out good Karma, and the good vibes will come back. Put out bad Karma, and, well... Karma's a bitch. Or to borrow a Christian phrase: "As ye sow, so shall ye reap..."."Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #21 November 25, 2001 Well said AggieDave......I just wonder from those of you who "know" him. Is he a dickhead in real life? Or is he just trying to impress someone or himself on here?Just curious.-------------http://www.JumpinDuo.com"oh no. Not another one"-Alienangel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 25 #22 November 25, 2001 Quoteor you can catch me next time I'm at Waller. I'm the big guy with the military haircut driving the truck that has "Aggie Skydiving" across the windshield. I will be more then happy to have a constructive/mature conversation with you to discuss any number of the points raised in the forums Bwaahahahahaa! That's too funny. Thanks Dave.Safe swoopsSangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #23 November 25, 2001 "well... Karma's a bitch."There you go again with the negative waves........."Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #24 November 25, 2001 QuoteThere you go again with the negative waves.........Where there's a Yin there's a Yang to balance it out. "Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokeneagle 0 #25 November 25, 2001 Ah, rgoper-- what an pitiful asshole- I've noticed he seems to have several disabilities working at the same time here- sociopathic, spelling impaired, perhaps dyslexic as well as temper-impaired... yes, I think weiner is a fair tag for this 'klown' blowing his horn... Brokeneagle. I'm really very gentle, no matter what my kung-fu teacher says... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
