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Michele

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That's nothing! About two years ago, an twin otter (commuter aviation version) took off from San Jose. When they got to 4000 feet they got an open door indication, so they landed and fixed it - it had gotten open somehow. They took off again and got another open door indication at 4000. This time, when they landed, someone was missing. They never found her body and passenger reports conflicted over what happened - whether she had fallen out or jumped out. I never found out about the NTSB's conclusions, but it sure sounds like the plot from one of those bad skydiving movies.
-bill von

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I had a door pop open in a small Cessna a couple of weeks ago while taking off. Nobody wants to investigate that. Actually, it was interesting flying the plane with the door open. I was trying to ignore it while at the same time trying to keep my elbow planted on my charts so they didn't all get sucked out the door!
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They obviously didn't have the door securely closed when they took off.. The Challenger has several safety devices on the main cabin door that is supposed to keep the door from opening while the cabin is pressurized.. The emergency exit will not open while the cabin is pressurized, due to the fact that it comes inside, and with the cabin pressurized, there is an enormous amount of pressure holding it in place.. The baggage door, under the left engine, has one safety device to keep it from being opened in flight(the baggage compartment can be accessed from the cabin in flight).. Both the main cabin door and the baggage door have annunciators in the cockpit that should be lit whenever the associated door is not fully closed/latched......they probably just didn't look, or the bulbs were burned out.. As an old boss of mine would call it.....Stupid pilot tricks..
Mike

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Wonder if anyone called "DOOR!!"??

See, that's exactly what I thought....some poor, deprived skydiver just had to get their fix, and popped the door........pitched out......did a hopnpop...
ciels-
Michele
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"What of the dreams that never die? Turn to your left at the end of the sky".
~e e cummings~

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Great story!
When I travel by air, I always take my rig in case business lets me jump at a dz near by (have been to some really neat new places this way :^).
The first time I did this, I looked at the emergency exit handout and determined the only way to exit safely, and not get sucked through an engine's intake, was to leave by the tail exit!
When I asked if this was possible (have learned since then that this door can't be opened on the inside during flight), the flight attendant stared at me like I was another D.B. Cooper and said that I'd have to ask the pilot when we landed.
Ha! Think I did? You bet! His look was priceless.
Grins,
Lori
"If you want to walk on water, you've got to get out of the boat!"

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Lori, that's great! I would have loved to see that.
I've given quite a bit of thought to the whole emergency ejection thing. I figure there's not much of a chance that they would let us out over an open field in a routine situation, but if the whole plane is burning in, why not?
The main problem I see is that during an emergency, the aircraft is likely to be in a pretty unstable configuration, and getting to the rig, getting it on, and finding an exit are going to be very tough. Then, once you find a way out, you will need to avoid intakes, potentially burning parts, not to mention the speed of the slipstream at that point.
Not that I wouldn't be trying, assuming we weren't busy trying to subdue terrorists.
Carl

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The main problem I see is that during an emergency, the aircraft is likely to be in a pretty unstable configuration, and getting to the rig, getting it on, and finding an exit are going to be very tough. Then, once you find a way out, you will need to avoid intakes, potentially burning parts, not to mention the speed of the slipstream at that point.


Plus the fact that as soon as ONE person figures out you have a parachute, you'll be fighting everybody on the airplane for it...even though most of 'em would jump out and not have a clue what to do..
Mike

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