cyberskydive 0 #1 August 8, 2001 How fast can a super otter get to altitude?C-28534http://www.sunraydesigns.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 August 8, 2001 Usually about 15 minutes give or take a couple due to fuel/pax on board and air temp. "I.....am Powdered Toast Man!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #3 August 8, 2001 Quoteabout 15 minutes give or take a coupleYep....I timed our acsent once and it took about 13 minutes for a full load. Not only does it matter on how many people there are, it also depends on the weather. The hotter it is, the longer it takes. (I don't know why, but a pilot could probably explain....Aviatrr??)Our website...updated 7 August... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingMarc 0 #4 August 8, 2001 Hotter air = less dense air. This makes the airplane's wing as well as the propellers less efficient, because they've got less to work with.Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #5 August 8, 2001 14 minutes too long.Man I'm spoiled! ------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #6 August 8, 2001 Quote14 minutes too long.Man I'm spoiled!what do you jump from Zen?? Do you have some deal worked out with NASA??two new skydiving pics...check em out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #7 August 8, 2001 Now I'm jealous !! We've only got a c182 at our dz (4 people to 10000' in about 30 mins) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #8 August 8, 2001 Quotewhat do you jump from Zen?? Do you have some deal worked out with NASA??lol!Super Otter. I can remember when it took us ~25 mins to get to altitude before the super otter engines were put on. When we got the new engines we were amazed at how much faster it was (12 minutes sometimes). Now we're like "Man this is taking forever." Some folks are never happy. ------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #9 August 8, 2001 QuoteHotter air = less dense air. This makes the airplane's wing as well as the propellers less efficient, because they've got less to work with.And remember that thing above your head that you're trying to land with is also a wing that will suffer from less dense air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #10 August 8, 2001 got a big dose of "why is this taking so long" a couple of weeks ago... competition at Delmarva in their otter (not super at all), taking like 25 minutes to 10.5.... back to cross keys Frankenotter climbing between 1,300 and 1,500 FPM less than 10 minutes - hardly any time for a nap at all. It is easy to get spoiled. (Rob has a timer and I got a look at it once, he was doing 18 minute turn arounds - including loading the plane - to 13.5) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #11 August 8, 2001 Two words....JATO POD!!!!!"I.....am Powdered Toast Man!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #12 August 8, 2001 Quote Hotter air = less dense air. This makes the airplane's wing as well as the propellers less efficient, because they've got less to work with. Plus the fact that the engines produce less power at higher ambient temps.. Just remember.. The altitude+hot temp(or either one by itself) also affects the way your canopy flies.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #13 August 9, 2001 tell me about it dave! enought time for napping and there was enough time for blowing bubbles.... capricious strikes again! =c)Stacyhttp://astro.temple.edu/~sweeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie 0 #14 August 10, 2001 aw, the frankenotter is Robs Baby. Did you see him during the 108 way attempts, the caravan and franki were both gone to other dz's. The replacement Super Otter came with its own pilot. Rob didnt know what to do with himself. He looked totally lost. have you jumped with John behind the controls yet? Yet another darn good pilot at xkeys.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #15 August 10, 2001 SInce I won't be anywhere near a computer tomorrow... Happy Birthday a day early.... (BTW you are now a day late in wishing ME a happy birthday, dont' worry I won't hold it against you). Is Capricious going to Chamersburg? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #16 August 10, 2001 Skydive Atlnata has had a super otter for most of the summer and we are really spoiled. We got the slow A$$ blue otter back for 2 weekends and almost died. Fast is good in jump planes....not in some other things.Happy Birthday a day late Dave....good year BTW. Guess we are aged to perfection...LOL. If you are in Chambersburg tell David Bradford HELLO for me. He just moved up there recently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grogs 0 #17 August 10, 2001 Yep, Frankenotter is a beast. I got the pleasure of riding it at Louisburg. He also swooped the tent city at about 20 feet while climbing out on Sunday morning. Talk about a wake-up call. I agree there's not enough time to take a nap because of the fast climb on it. Also, with the bench seats and high rate of climb you're leaning about 45 degrees to the rear, so it's doubtful you could sleep even if there was time.Speaking of Frankie, did they give it a new paint job? I heard they were planning to paint it (blasphemy!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #18 August 10, 2001 It's going to get painted over the winter. Apparently the FAA is drawn to a plane like flies to cow pies when they see a multi-part aircraft at a ramp. "it's not how you feel, it's how you look". I've nodded off before (light load, you can spread out) and been awakened with everyone getting ready, didn't take too long! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZBone 0 #19 August 10, 2001 Well, maybe they will do something really cool, like Pink (SkyVan) in Europe, or the Shark at Perris! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #20 August 11, 2001 Thanks for the BD wish chippe- I mean Dave, happy belated to you, too!!! I"m spending the BD at the DZ with the teamies, jumping like crazy- nothing better for a birthday than a whole two days of 4way. Training again, uh oh!!! Capricious is all over Chambersburg, watch out!!! We may be in the same hotel as JS but I'm not sure. GO JETSTREAM!! (we are fully expecting you guys to create a Capricious cheer. It's only fair)Stacyhttp://astro.temple.edu/~sweeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZBone 0 #21 August 11, 2001 Quotewe are fully expecting you guys to create a Capricious cheer.Wouldn't it be a contradiction to have a planned cheer for a team named Capricious? You should just capriciously yell out whatever strikes your fancy at the time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #22 August 13, 2001 They pretty much have that covered. They've even created a couple new random formations that aren't in the dive pool. Some of them involve head down manuvers, so they are very cutting edge :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #23 August 13, 2001 None of the new randoms involve head down. The block formations however do require that in some cases. Laugh if you want, but we DID get points for "Yuan Flake" in Delmarva. =c)Stacyhttp://astro.temple.edu/~sweeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites