My First Cutaway

[JeepDiver 0]

Jump 272

My Sabre2

I opened perfectly at 3100 feet, did a series of toggle spirals to 2300, I started another extremely hard toggle turn at 2150 and at 1900 feet my canopy collapsed and wrapped in about 4 to 5 line twists. The spiral I started continued to 1350 with line twists. I was unable to get the line twists out and chopped it at 1350. I was under my inflated reserve at 1200.

All data was captured on my Altitrack.

It was a great jump!!!!

[piisfish 140]

good job on chopping soon enough.

Did you alternate the turns ?

Reason to avoid hard toggle turns.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[AFFI 0]

Rule of thumb:

Do not make performance maneuvers beneath an altitude you are not willing to cutaway from (I.E. your hard deck).

Glad you survived - fun fun fun eh?

Ummmmm, BEER...
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Mykel AFF-I10
Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat…

[ChrisL 2]

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Jump 272

My Sabre2

I opened perfectly at 3100 feet, did a series of toggle spirals to 2300, I started another extremely hard toggle turn at 2150 and at 1900 feet my canopy collapsed and wrapped in about 4 to 5 line twists. The spiral I started continued to 1350 with line twists. I was unable to get the line twists out and chopped it at 1350. I was under my inflated reserve at 1200.

All data was captured on my Altitrack.

It was a great jump!!!!

Was that a skyhook deployment?
150 feet from cutaway to open reserve is pretty damn fast.

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My mighty steed

[diablopilot 2]

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Jump 272

My Sabre2

I opened perfectly at 3100 feet, did a series of toggle spirals to 2300, I started another extremely hard toggle turn at 2150 and at 1900 feet my canopy collapsed and wrapped in about 4 to 5 line twists. The spiral I started continued to 1350 with line twists. I was unable to get the line twists out and chopped it at 1350. I was under my inflated reserve at 1200.

All data was captured on my Altitrack.

It was a great jump!!!!

Was that a skyhook deployment?
150 feet from cutaway to open reserve is pretty damn fast.

I would say that is pretty normal for a breakaway from a slow speed malfunction without a SkyHook.

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

[bob.dino 1]

Rule #1 of canopy flight: always keep tension on the lines.

- If initiating a toggle spiral, start slow and speed it up.
- Don't stall out the inside edge of the wing. Your maxiumum rotation speed is most likely achieved at less than full toggle deflection anyway.
- If reversing direction, pull down the opposite toggle before you let up the first one.


(Notes happily stolen from Brian Germain.)

[JeepDiver 0]

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Jump 272

My Sabre2

I opened perfectly at 3100 feet, did a series of toggle spirals to 2300, I started another extremely hard toggle turn at 2150 and at 1900 feet my canopy collapsed and wrapped in about 4 to 5 line twists. The spiral I started continued to 1350 with line twists. I was unable to get the line twists out and chopped it at 1350. I was under my inflated reserve at 1200.

All data was captured on my Altitrack.

It was a great jump!!!!

Was that a skyhook deployment?
150 feet from cutaway to open reserve is pretty damn fast.

I would say that is pretty normal for a breakaway from a slow speed malfunction without a SkyHook.

I do have a skyhook in my Vector3. Not sure if it was the RSL or the release of the reserve pilotchute which got the freebag to line stretch. I'm thinking the skyhook achieved linestretch of the freebag before the reserve pilotchute.

I knew where I was in time and space so I took a delay from the cutaway to pull the reserve handle. Before I could pull the reserve handle my reserve was inflated overhead. I didn't pull my reserve handle.

[Sutton 0]

Its good to see that you reacted quickly and accordingly

-Sutton

[jacketsdb23 49]

I didn't pull my reserve handle.



YIKES

Bad habbit. If I were you I'd pull it anyway. Its a quick way to get grounded at places I've jumped.

Emergencies are all about muscle memory. Imagine you have a few emergencies and each time you pull the cutaway your skyhook pulls out the reserve, you think ahhhhh no need to pull the reserve.

Two months down the road you borrow gear without a skyhook. Same thing as you describe (canopy collapses) happens at 1000ft. You cutaway and don't pull your reserve handle right away because of your previous experience. You're now a discussion in the incident forums.


Anyway, glad you made it out ok on this one.

Pull your reserve handle everytime.

Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. Thanks for listening.

Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen
God is Good
Beer is Great
Swoopers are crazy.

[JeepDiver 0]

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Pull your reserve handle everytime.

Great advice. Thanks

[Chris-Ottawa 0]

Hey,

Just to don on personal experience.

Before I had my own gear, I had read alot about the skyhook and I know how it works and how RSL's in general work. The day of my first cutaway, I was wearing a Vector3. I knew Vector3's had skyhooks.

Anyways, I had a mal, a slow spinner from a tension knot, tried to save it and chopped at my decision altitude. Landed uneventful under my reserve.

I found out about 2 hours after my chop that the rig did not have a Skyhook or RSL or anything. It did have a Cypres, but that's besides the fact.

The fact that I didn't even consider whether I had a Skyhook or not was purely muscle memory from training. That reserve handle was "GONE" the split second the 3 rings released.

Have fun..be safe!

Chris

"When once you have tasted flight..."

[kkeenan 14]

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I found out about 2 hours after my chop that the rig did not have a Skyhook or RSL or anything.

It sounds like you did not do much of a pre-flight of the gear you were using. Did you even know what you were looking at ? Did you ask for assistance ? And you made the very wrong assumption that all V-3s have Skyhooks. (Where did you even get that idea. V-3 was in production long before the Skyhook.)

Are you sure that you know all you can about the equipment you are currently jumping ?? I started to comment on the guy who didn't pull his reserve handle, but your statements about gear knowledge are way more scary.

I realize that you're new and enthusiastic, and that's great. But in the long run, it's knowledge that will keep you alive in this sport.

Kevin

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Dude, you are so awesome...
Can I be on your ash jump ?

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That reserve handle was "GONE" the split second the 3 rings released.

The way you worded “After the 3 Rings were released” was comforting, the red flag was “Split Second”.

A mistake I see a lot of up jumpers make is practicing only one way, and that is a rapid firing of the reserve immediately after the cutaway. I have seen several make the mistake of firing the reserve before both risers were released and none of those landings were pretty.

I like to think of the act of initiating Emergency Procedures as an act of gracefulness using good form rather than getting the job done rapidly. Boxing or fencing comes to mind as a controlled aggression, where gracefulness and good form are paramount in order to be successful.

I am not harping on you in particular, but rather communicating to the group that EP’s should be done with control, gracefulness and finesse utilizing proper technique while executing, rather than amping out and pushing those handles as fast as possible.
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Mykel AFF-I10
Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat…

[JeepDiver 0]

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Is there a point to your post?