Cambalectri 0 #26 February 3, 2015 HellisI have never had any issues in the air with the all magnetic bag I have. But packing it can be tricky in the begining with the magnets. But once you learn how to place the bag without is slamming shut while S-folding it's really simple to use. I like it so much I will probably never change to something else. Never packed wolmari on a skydive parachute, but used a similar method on my BASE canopy a few times with good result. Thanks for the info concerning your all magnetic main bag ! This is interesting. You had this specific bag for a while or it's fairly new ? And, would you mind to tell us the manufacturer of that particular bag, many could possibly be interested . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambalectri 0 #27 February 3, 2015 slave2ink68well that escalated pretty fast...thank you for all of your knowledge however being new to the sport im even more confused at this point whats the edifference between a smi stoless and fully stoless bag can anyone send me some links showing me both and the difference between the two what i have seen in person was a bad that had three rubberbands to close the d bad and then then rest of the lines where lassoed in a figure 8 style and secured with two folding flaps A semi-stowless main bag has usually two or three rubberbands and the remaining suspension lines are folded in a pocket on the side of the bag...similar to a reserve d-bag, however without the velcro. A stowless bag has usually no rubberbands, typically, it's an all magnetic bag, mentioned by Hellis. www.Compal.be ( Lazy bag ) is a good example of a magnetic stowless bag ... Please see images below. UPT has a few nice videos how to pack a main canopy into a semi-stowless bag.. You Tube = semistowless bag ( UPT with Greg Rau ) . Also, about the semi-stowless bag; You tube = Greg Rau talks about UPT@PIA 2011. Hopes this help ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deimian 43 #28 February 3, 2015 I believe there is a new design for compal's Lazy Bag, relying completely on magnets (no tuck tabs). Just in case anybody is interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medic0079 0 #29 February 4, 2015 I have a fully stowless magnetic bag that I was planning on using for my rig but the bag is to small for my 150 & will not stay shut properly. My understanding is that the reason behind the locking stows is that the possibility of canopy deployment before line stretch causing a catastrophically hard opening is reduced. I'm going to sell the all mag bag and already ordered a mirage semi stowless for my g4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambalectri 0 #30 February 4, 2015 medic0079I have a fully stowless magnetic bag that I was planning on using for my rig but the bag is to small for my 150 & will not stay shut properly. My understanding is that the reason behind the locking stows is that the possibility of canopy deployment before line stretch causing a catastrophically hard opening is reduced. I'm going to sell the all mag bag and already ordered a mirage semi stowless for my g4 I believe this is exactly what Greg Rau, from UPT is trying to explain in his video from VASST training, at PIA 2011 . Also, this may make no sense, to many, however, personally, I didn't want to have all these magnets near my Cypres2, which is really sitting beside the main d-bag !!! And, naturally, with a semi-stowless, verifying often the two locking stows is most crucial; to be in top shape at all times... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #31 February 4, 2015 Quote Also, this may make no sense, to many, however, personally, I didn't want to have all these magnets near my Cypres2, which is really sitting beside the main d-bag !!! So what are you afraid of? Witchcraft of something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #32 February 4, 2015 I use the mPOD from pgasus. http://www.pgasus.be/start.php?pg=text&item=mPOD My canopy is a BT pro 140 and the bag is sized for a ~150. Overstuffing is probably a bad idea. I'm also wondering what the problem with magnets are? If I remember correct, the bearded one did lots of research before placing magnets on the closing flaps. I believe there is a video of him explaining it. Also, the magnets are not close to your AAD. How do you pack? The AAD is placed at the bottom (closest to your back) in the reserve tray, and the magnets are placed at the top and down by the BOC in the main tray. The magnets are strong, but not that strong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambalectri 0 #33 February 4, 2015 phoenixlprQuote Also, this may make no sense, to many, however, personally, I didn't want to have all these magnets near my Cypres2, which is really sitting beside the main d-bag !!! So what are you afraid of? Witchcraft of something? I like your sense of humour ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambalectri 0 #34 February 4, 2015 HellisI use the mPOD from pgasus. http://www.pgasus.be/start.php?pg=text&item=mPOD My canopy is a BT pro 140 and the bag is sized for a ~150. Overstuffing is probably a bad idea. I'm also wondering what the problem with magnets are? If I remember correct, the bearded one did lots of research before placing magnets on the closing flaps. I believe there is a video of him explaining it. Also, the magnets are not close to your AAD. How do you pack? The AAD is placed at the bottom (closest to your back) in the reserve tray, and the magnets are placed at the top and down by the BOC in the main tray. The magnets are strong, but not that strong. Thanks for the link, with the images and the videos, from Pgasus. Much appreciated. And, you are right, once the bag is closed, the magnets are sitting at the bottom of the container ! Also, I believe the secret in having a good all magnetic stowless bag is to have the right combination , the right size and the right strength of all these magnets. Research is certainly the key ! Thanks for you time . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites