platein 1 #1 May 20, 2015 Hi! How many sizes does a Pilot ZPX pack smaller than a Pilot ZP canopy? One size, two sizes,...? Conrete: which Pilot ZP canopy does equal a Pilot 150 ZPX canopy - in terms of pack volume? Pilot 140, Pilot 132,...? Thanks Platein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorehambeach 9 #2 May 20, 2015 It's approx 16% less so my 188zpx is about the same size as my new 168zp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platein 1 #3 May 20, 2015 shorehambeachIt's approx 16% less 16% less of what? Cheers Plateincheers! platein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #4 May 20, 2015 shorehambeachIt's approx 16% less so my 188zpx is about the same size as my new 168zp The fabric is said to have 16% less bulk, but that doesn't mean the canopy as a whole should be expected to be that much less. The reinforcement tapes, lines and such are the same volume as before.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorehambeach 9 #5 May 21, 2015 So to answer the OP its equivalent to one down size. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maggyrider 10 #6 May 29, 2015 I would say in the bigger sizes the difference should be about one downsize (188 ZPX <-> 168 ZP) and in the smaller sizes about two steps (132 ZPX <-> 117 ZP) as the steps between two sizes are quite small. Please note that the Aerodyne ZP is (at least subjectively) thicker than ZP of other manufacturers.Nice words are not always true - and true words are not always nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
platein 1 #7 May 29, 2015 maggyriderI would say in the bigger sizes the difference should be about one downsize (188 ZPX <-> 168 ZP) and in the smaller sizes about two steps (132 ZPX <-> 117 ZP) as the steps between two sizes are quite small. Please note that the Aerodyne ZP is (at least subjectively) thicker than ZP of other manufacturers. Is that a guess or do you have experience with that issue? I am wondering, as with less fabrik there is less that could be made thinner (ZP->ZPX). Moreover lines and grommets etc stay the same. So the absolute differenzes in pack volume should be greater with bigger canopies, whereas less with small canopies. At leas logical that would make sense...cheers! platein 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EOCS 0 #8 May 29, 2015 As others have hinted to the smaller size canopy you got to the less of an effect the canopies material has on the pack volume. I asked Aerodyne this same question a while back and got that answer. Always best to ask those that make it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilGenius 0 #9 May 29, 2015 My Pilot 150 ZPX fits in a D-bag that my rigger tells me was made for a 132 ZP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmccann 1 #10 May 29, 2015 No wonder this is confusing - you're getting exactly opposite answers all over the place here. What canopy exactly are you trying to fit into what container (with what size reserve, with or without AAD), in what climate? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yvanpec 1 #11 June 27, 2015 bit late on this one but it might help someone in the future. i OWNED and PACKED all this equipment MYSELF. no guesses here. pilot 188 ZPX packs EXACTLY (didnt have to adjust closing loop) like a safire 2 149 now, it packs the same in the Dbag, but my safire is a tad bit tighter in the container because of the spectra lines of the pilot are thinner. safire 2 pack volume: 408 Pilot zp pack volume: 440 difference in ZP vs ZPX: around 8% my pilot had 100 jumps on it and my safire has 205.Better be on the ground wishing you were up there than being up there wishing you were on the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites