billvon 3,006 #51 September 8, 2003 >And you are hotter than BillVon. Everyone's hotter than me. I'm 50 and wear a lab coat all the time. And of course I now have a wingsuit which is the epitome of uncoolness, especially when trying to get on the plane with all that stuff dragging behind you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #52 September 8, 2003 Quote Re: [txblondie] And you are hotter than BillVon. Chris, We can agree on that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #53 September 8, 2003 LMAO...I do like your sense of humor. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #54 September 8, 2003 I promise you, once I see a formidable 3rd Party Candidate, I will vote for him or her. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #55 September 8, 2003 Quote> Also the telecom situation is Clintons fault. > . . .followed the Clintonian way of lying and deceiving to postpone your inevitable failure. > . . .come due to the lack of morality that Clinton brought to the U.S. presidency. So: Arkansas problems - Clinton's fault. -------------------------------------------- Clinton does his tax and spend for three terms and keeps Arkansas at the bottom of the barrel, I would say that is his fault. ========================== Texas problems - Clinton's fault. Telecom depression - Clinton's fault. Enronesque trading scandals - Clinton's fault. ---------------------------------------------- Texas problems which are mostly due to telecom which was brought down because of trading scandals or just false, unrealistic predictions predictions of growth. (all happening in a time when, Clinton the president of the U.S. was doing the same exact thing with the country's budget. Or do you not remember how funny it was when Clinton showed us how he balanced the budget, only the numbers didn't add up. Sounds like Bernard Ebbers was doing the exact same thing with MCI/Worldcom to me. ============================== Failure of all that is decent in the US - Clinton's fault. --------------------------------------------- I think that sums it up. We have a president with no boundries and during his terms the country as a whole looses several notches in the morality scale.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jayruss 0 #56 September 8, 2003 QuoteI'm 50 You are NOT? __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #57 September 8, 2003 I'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #58 September 8, 2003 QuoteAnd of course I now have a wingsuit which is the epitome of uncoolness, especially when trying to get on the plane with all that stuff dragging behind you. True. But it's the coolest thing in the sky, so it all sort of evens out.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #59 September 8, 2003 QuoteAnd of course I now have a wingsuit which is the epitome of uncoolness, especially when trying to get on the plane with all that stuff dragging behind you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- True. But it's the coolest thing in the sky, so it all sort of evens out. He may be vying for the Epitome of Uncoolness, but your claim to being The World's Most Boring Skydiver is probably safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflydrew 0 #60 September 8, 2003 QuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Here we go again with the name caliing, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #61 September 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Here we go again with the name caliing, right? I haven't called anybody names. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #62 September 8, 2003 QuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Unfortunately, sometimes the truth hurts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflydrew 0 #63 September 8, 2003 Quote...from the Liberals hurts my ears Sorry, I mistook the statement to assume that you were placing a name or label because of the stance that someone may have been taking in something that they wrote... rather than actually addressing the topics in a constructive and objective way... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #64 September 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Unfortunately, sometimes the truth hurts. We can make this thread longer than the "silent thread" and the outcome will be the same. Nobody is going to change their minds. Bush may not be perfect, but I'm glad that Gore isn't running things. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,006 #65 September 8, 2003 >I'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Yeah! Where's O'Reilly when you need him? We need him to yell "Shut up! Shut up!" and then turn their microphones off - in the interest of fairly presenting both sides (the GOP's and the republican's) of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #66 September 8, 2003 QuoteLet me start by saying that I don't care if the next administration is republican or democratic, just as long as this entire administration's reign ends... Ahhhh....feel the anti-Bush hatred here..... Quote One of the things that I think is really sad, is how far the 87 billion could be going for, say something like, public education in the United states... I mean, seriously, that enough dollars to expand classrooms, buy computers, purchase books, and hire more teachers all across the country... Spending on education is the highest it has ever been. Your correlation of higher education spending with education quality is completely ludicrous. Try again. Quote Instead, "we" went and attacked a country that was not threatening us (still haven't seen any proof, right?), we did it with out the approval of the United Nations (which in this day and age, does mean something in the world's eye), ligitimized the assassination of a country's leader (still haven't got him yet, right?) justifying it as our moral obligation...etc, etc, etc... Last time I looked the US had not surrendered sovereignity to the UN (much to the chagrin of the Clintonistas) and also had signed no treaty mandating all foreign policy decisions be cleared by that body. Why the hell should we? To please the French? Quote Don't even get started with all those great tax cuts! Our country's deficit is growing and growing, there are more and more cut backs, and there really isn't any light at the end of the tunnel. Spending causes deficits - not tax cuts. I don't like the second tax cut, but the first was right on - a nice way to curb the effects of the Clinton-Gore recession. Congress controls the purse strings - and they are spending like mad-men. If you're faulting GWB for not using his veto to curb this spending, I'd agree with you. If the left had garnered an intelligent debate during the tax cut discussion, perhaps things would have been different. Instead of doing so, they fled to their old mantra of 'tax cuts for the rich' and continuously forgot to mention that the rich pay most of the taxes. Quote The worst part of it all is that you know he's going to win the election even if he doesn't get all the votes... Sh*t, he did last time, what's stopping him from doing it again. Read the Constitution and get back to us. The Electoral College has only been in existence since the Constitution's ratification. Gore did not win Florida by any means of counting the votes. Quote While we focus on ending global terror, like it's some sort of religious crusade or something, other country's economies are going to overtake ours, and they will become economically dominant. $87,000,000,000... nice job Bush!... good thing we attacked Iraq, right? Curbing global terror isn't important to you? Granted, the methodology is questionable, but one wonders at such a statement.... Bush has angered me as a conservative (I'm libertarian actually) but he in no way deserves all of this hatred from the left.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #67 September 8, 2003 Bill, you should watch O'Reilly more often. When interviewing that Republican congressman - Tancredo - concerning the Mexican border he was accusing the Bush administration of not doing its job. When interviewing some FL social worker about that kid who diappeared into thin air, he was accusing Gov. Jeb Bush of not doing his job to protect Florida's children. Neither of those statements endears him to the GOP, I assure you. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pds 0 #68 September 8, 2003 Quote We can make this thread longer than the "silent thread" and the outcome will be the same. Nobody is going to change their minds. my sentiments exactly. and while this thread aint gonna change anybodies vote, there are some relatively intelligent folks with well developed viewpoints banging up against each other. i think that is worth reading. on the otherhand, if you want noise and name calling, you can read my posts. i think i am the only one guilty of calling anyone any names. but he's not here to defend himself so dz.com rules of engagement don't apply. making a profession out of being 'that guy'.namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PurpleBadger 0 #69 September 8, 2003 hahaha, it's kinda funny looking at a country's politics from outside ... damn, forgot we still had Blair as PM, he's not really much more then a finger puppet for Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #70 September 8, 2003 QuoteLast time I looked the US had not surrendered sovereignity to the UN (much to the chagrin of the Clintonistas) and also had signed no treaty mandating all foreign policy decisions be cleared by that body. Why the hell should we? To please the French? Anvil, that just makes me laugh. Specially at a time when the americans are practically begging anybody, even the french, to help them with the fuckup they have created in Iraq.. See, it was easy to go in and just blow things up, now when it comes to the difficult part, the americans give up and beg for help. QuoteInstead of doing so, they fled to their old mantra of 'tax cuts for the rich' and continuously forgot to mention that the rich pay most of the taxes. Then tell me, in a time when US spending is at its peak, the deficit is about to bust all records, where should the money come from? To me it makes sense that those who have the most, give the most in this time of need. So, wise Anvil, answer me this: Where should all this money come from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #71 September 8, 2003 QuoteWhere should all this money come from? Canada. We'll be invading and selling the country at auction beginning tomorrow. Didn't you get the memo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #72 September 8, 2003 QuoteCanada. We'll be invading and selling the country at auction beginning tomorrow. Didn't you get the memo? LOL, so there is the 1st 1 million, now where does the remaining 86.9 billion come from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #73 September 8, 2003 Quotemy sentiments exactly. and while this thread aint gonna change anybodies vote, there are some relatively intelligent folks with well developed viewpoints banging up against each other. i think that is worth reading. Well...something's changing people's minds.... Latest polls: Zogby America Poll. Sept. 3-5, 2003 "Do you think President Bush deserves to be reelected or do you think it is time for someone new?" Deserves Reelection 40% Someone New 52% Not Sure 8% Time/CNN Poll conducted by Harris Interactive. Sept. 3-4, 2003 “If George W. Bush runs for reelection in 2004, would you say you will definitely vote for him, might vote for or against him, or will you definitely vote against him?” Definitely for: 20% Might vote for or against: 25% Defintely against: 41% Not sure: 5% http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #74 September 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhere should all this money come from? Canada. We'll be invading and selling the country at auction beginning tomorrow. Didn't you get the memo? Here's our chance to take out Shania Twain. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Steel 0 #75 September 8, 2003 Good post. I love it when somebody else sets the record straight so I don't have to. But for all the rest of the whiners about the 87 Billion. Remember back to just after September 11th, when congress approved giving 40 Billion to the aviation industry alone. That is right a terrorist attack can cost us a hell of a lot more than 87 Billion dollars. Believe me I hate the thought of having to spend a penny to clean that mess up there or in Afganistan for that matter. I am still waiting to the $25. donation that Alqueda is sending us help restore the mess they caused in NY. Hell Russia never rebuilt East Germany after World War II. The U.S. rebuilt West Germany and West Germany has been rebuilding the East since the reunification. But rather than see our clear superiority all the left can do is defend communism, other forms of socialism (Europe) and tyrannies.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 3 of 23 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Jayruss 0 #56 September 8, 2003 QuoteI'm 50 You are NOT? __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #57 September 8, 2003 I'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #58 September 8, 2003 QuoteAnd of course I now have a wingsuit which is the epitome of uncoolness, especially when trying to get on the plane with all that stuff dragging behind you. True. But it's the coolest thing in the sky, so it all sort of evens out.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #59 September 8, 2003 QuoteAnd of course I now have a wingsuit which is the epitome of uncoolness, especially when trying to get on the plane with all that stuff dragging behind you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- True. But it's the coolest thing in the sky, so it all sort of evens out. He may be vying for the Epitome of Uncoolness, but your claim to being The World's Most Boring Skydiver is probably safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflydrew 0 #60 September 8, 2003 QuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Here we go again with the name caliing, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #61 September 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Here we go again with the name caliing, right? I haven't called anybody names. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #62 September 8, 2003 QuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Unfortunately, sometimes the truth hurts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflydrew 0 #63 September 8, 2003 Quote...from the Liberals hurts my ears Sorry, I mistook the statement to assume that you were placing a name or label because of the stance that someone may have been taking in something that they wrote... rather than actually addressing the topics in a constructive and objective way... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #64 September 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Unfortunately, sometimes the truth hurts. We can make this thread longer than the "silent thread" and the outcome will be the same. Nobody is going to change their minds. Bush may not be perfect, but I'm glad that Gore isn't running things. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #65 September 8, 2003 >I'd get in on this but the shrill rhetoric from the liberals hurts my ears. Yeah! Where's O'Reilly when you need him? We need him to yell "Shut up! Shut up!" and then turn their microphones off - in the interest of fairly presenting both sides (the GOP's and the republican's) of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #66 September 8, 2003 QuoteLet me start by saying that I don't care if the next administration is republican or democratic, just as long as this entire administration's reign ends... Ahhhh....feel the anti-Bush hatred here..... Quote One of the things that I think is really sad, is how far the 87 billion could be going for, say something like, public education in the United states... I mean, seriously, that enough dollars to expand classrooms, buy computers, purchase books, and hire more teachers all across the country... Spending on education is the highest it has ever been. Your correlation of higher education spending with education quality is completely ludicrous. Try again. Quote Instead, "we" went and attacked a country that was not threatening us (still haven't seen any proof, right?), we did it with out the approval of the United Nations (which in this day and age, does mean something in the world's eye), ligitimized the assassination of a country's leader (still haven't got him yet, right?) justifying it as our moral obligation...etc, etc, etc... Last time I looked the US had not surrendered sovereignity to the UN (much to the chagrin of the Clintonistas) and also had signed no treaty mandating all foreign policy decisions be cleared by that body. Why the hell should we? To please the French? Quote Don't even get started with all those great tax cuts! Our country's deficit is growing and growing, there are more and more cut backs, and there really isn't any light at the end of the tunnel. Spending causes deficits - not tax cuts. I don't like the second tax cut, but the first was right on - a nice way to curb the effects of the Clinton-Gore recession. Congress controls the purse strings - and they are spending like mad-men. If you're faulting GWB for not using his veto to curb this spending, I'd agree with you. If the left had garnered an intelligent debate during the tax cut discussion, perhaps things would have been different. Instead of doing so, they fled to their old mantra of 'tax cuts for the rich' and continuously forgot to mention that the rich pay most of the taxes. Quote The worst part of it all is that you know he's going to win the election even if he doesn't get all the votes... Sh*t, he did last time, what's stopping him from doing it again. Read the Constitution and get back to us. The Electoral College has only been in existence since the Constitution's ratification. Gore did not win Florida by any means of counting the votes. Quote While we focus on ending global terror, like it's some sort of religious crusade or something, other country's economies are going to overtake ours, and they will become economically dominant. $87,000,000,000... nice job Bush!... good thing we attacked Iraq, right? Curbing global terror isn't important to you? Granted, the methodology is questionable, but one wonders at such a statement.... Bush has angered me as a conservative (I'm libertarian actually) but he in no way deserves all of this hatred from the left.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #67 September 8, 2003 Bill, you should watch O'Reilly more often. When interviewing that Republican congressman - Tancredo - concerning the Mexican border he was accusing the Bush administration of not doing its job. When interviewing some FL social worker about that kid who diappeared into thin air, he was accusing Gov. Jeb Bush of not doing his job to protect Florida's children. Neither of those statements endears him to the GOP, I assure you. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #68 September 8, 2003 Quote We can make this thread longer than the "silent thread" and the outcome will be the same. Nobody is going to change their minds. my sentiments exactly. and while this thread aint gonna change anybodies vote, there are some relatively intelligent folks with well developed viewpoints banging up against each other. i think that is worth reading. on the otherhand, if you want noise and name calling, you can read my posts. i think i am the only one guilty of calling anyone any names. but he's not here to defend himself so dz.com rules of engagement don't apply. making a profession out of being 'that guy'.namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleBadger 0 #69 September 8, 2003 hahaha, it's kinda funny looking at a country's politics from outside ... damn, forgot we still had Blair as PM, he's not really much more then a finger puppet for Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #70 September 8, 2003 QuoteLast time I looked the US had not surrendered sovereignity to the UN (much to the chagrin of the Clintonistas) and also had signed no treaty mandating all foreign policy decisions be cleared by that body. Why the hell should we? To please the French? Anvil, that just makes me laugh. Specially at a time when the americans are practically begging anybody, even the french, to help them with the fuckup they have created in Iraq.. See, it was easy to go in and just blow things up, now when it comes to the difficult part, the americans give up and beg for help. QuoteInstead of doing so, they fled to their old mantra of 'tax cuts for the rich' and continuously forgot to mention that the rich pay most of the taxes. Then tell me, in a time when US spending is at its peak, the deficit is about to bust all records, where should the money come from? To me it makes sense that those who have the most, give the most in this time of need. So, wise Anvil, answer me this: Where should all this money come from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #71 September 8, 2003 QuoteWhere should all this money come from? Canada. We'll be invading and selling the country at auction beginning tomorrow. Didn't you get the memo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #72 September 8, 2003 QuoteCanada. We'll be invading and selling the country at auction beginning tomorrow. Didn't you get the memo? LOL, so there is the 1st 1 million, now where does the remaining 86.9 billion come from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #73 September 8, 2003 Quotemy sentiments exactly. and while this thread aint gonna change anybodies vote, there are some relatively intelligent folks with well developed viewpoints banging up against each other. i think that is worth reading. Well...something's changing people's minds.... Latest polls: Zogby America Poll. Sept. 3-5, 2003 "Do you think President Bush deserves to be reelected or do you think it is time for someone new?" Deserves Reelection 40% Someone New 52% Not Sure 8% Time/CNN Poll conducted by Harris Interactive. Sept. 3-4, 2003 “If George W. Bush runs for reelection in 2004, would you say you will definitely vote for him, might vote for or against him, or will you definitely vote against him?” Definitely for: 20% Might vote for or against: 25% Defintely against: 41% Not sure: 5% http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #74 September 8, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhere should all this money come from? Canada. We'll be invading and selling the country at auction beginning tomorrow. Didn't you get the memo? Here's our chance to take out Shania Twain. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #75 September 8, 2003 Good post. I love it when somebody else sets the record straight so I don't have to. But for all the rest of the whiners about the 87 Billion. Remember back to just after September 11th, when congress approved giving 40 Billion to the aviation industry alone. That is right a terrorist attack can cost us a hell of a lot more than 87 Billion dollars. Believe me I hate the thought of having to spend a penny to clean that mess up there or in Afganistan for that matter. I am still waiting to the $25. donation that Alqueda is sending us help restore the mess they caused in NY. Hell Russia never rebuilt East Germany after World War II. The U.S. rebuilt West Germany and West Germany has been rebuilding the East since the reunification. But rather than see our clear superiority all the left can do is defend communism, other forms of socialism (Europe) and tyrannies.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
