Amazon 7 #101 May 16, 2006 MINISTRY OF TRUTH Serving as the propaganda arm of the ruling party in "1984," the Ministry of Truth not only spread lies to suit its strategic goals, but constantly rewrote and falsified history. It is a practice that has become increasingly commonplace in the Bush White House, where presidential transcripts are routinely sanitized to remove the president's gaffes, accounts of intelligence warnings prior to Sept. 11 get spottier with each retelling, and the facts surrounding Bush's past financial dealings are subject to continual revision. The Bush administration has been surprisingly up front about its intentions of propagating falsehoods. In February, for example, the Pentagon announced a plan to create an Office of Strategic Influence to provide false news and information abroad to help manipulate public opinion and further its military objectives. Following a public outcry, the Pentagon said it would close the office -- news that would have sounded more convincing had it not come from a place that just announced it was planning to spread misinformation Edited to add a new link to Micheles reading list and so she wont accuse me of plagarism http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/07/28/IN244190.DTL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #102 May 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteAs for you young lady, I could start releasing the tapes of those lusty phone calls you've been making lately. The pictures are FAR more interesting I've seen those too and uh, well.....you need to slow down a little. Think rhythm, like a boat rocking gently on the water, not like a Grizzly Bear who just caugh a salmon. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #103 May 16, 2006 This is the vvideo they realeased>??!!? That video has been around for a long time7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #104 May 16, 2006 QuoteThis is the vvideo they realeased>??!!? That video has been around for a long time Is a bit underwhelming isn't it? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
03CLS 0 #105 May 16, 2006 QuoteThis is the vvideo they realeased>??!!? That video has been around for a long time I know that now. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #106 May 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis is the vvideo they realeased>??!!? That video has been around for a long time I know that now. Thanks That video has 5 frames to it, and proves nothing unfortunatly. I wonder which one they actaully released. I'd be disappointed if it was this 5 frame one.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #107 May 16, 2006 QuoteThat plane was shut down my friend. Did you notice they never played the "voices of passengers" in Moussai's trial? They are not real. Have you ever tried making a call from an airplane at 5K? Doenst work!!! Bullshit. Todd Beamer & the others who made calls from the plane did NOT use cell phones. They used the Airfone inflight phone system. You know those little handsets embedded in the back of the seat on some commuter flights? They charge you a lot of $ per minute, but they work just find at any normal altitude. That's what they're for. They've been around since the late '70s. Todd Beamer picked up the receiver & dialed 0 & talked to the Airfone operator. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #108 May 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat plane was shut down my friend. Did you notice they never played the "voices of passengers" in Moussai's trial? They are not real. Have you ever tried making a call from an airplane at 5K? Doenst work!!! Bullshit. Todd Beamer & the others who made calls from the plane did NOT use cell phones. They used the Airfone inflight phone system. You know those little handsets embedded in the back of the seat on some commuter flights? They charge you a lot of $ per minute, but they work just find at any normal altitude. That's what they're for. They've been around since the late '70s. Todd Beamer picked up the receiver & dialed 0 & talked to the Airfone operator. So why were there NO transcripts from the voices of passengers during the trial? The released the transcripts from the hijackers.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #109 May 17, 2006 I didn't say there were no transcripts. I was talking about what kind of phone they used. this isn't difficult, people. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #110 May 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat plane was shut down my friend. Did you notice they never played the "voices of passengers" in Moussai's trial? They are not real. Have you ever tried making a call from an airplane at 5K? Doenst work!!! Bullshit. Todd Beamer & the others who made calls from the plane did NOT use cell phones. They used the Airfone inflight phone system. You know those little handsets embedded in the back of the seat on some commuter flights? They charge you a lot of $ per minute, but they work just find at any normal altitude. That's what they're for. They've been around since the late '70s. Todd Beamer picked up the receiver & dialed 0 & talked to the Airfone operator. So why were there NO transcripts from the voices of passengers during the trial? The released the transcripts from the hijackers. The hijackers were talking over the radio, which is recorded by ATC and the black box. The Airfone service, as well as any cell phones which may have been used, are not recorded.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #111 May 17, 2006 QuoteThe hijackers were talking over the radio, which is recorded by ATC and the black box. The Airfone service, as well as any cell phones which may have been used, are not recorded. Interesting how some think everything is recorded these days. Explains alot about the paranoia I've noticed recently. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpozzoli 0 #112 May 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat plane was shut down my friend. Did you notice they never played the "voices of passengers" in Moussai's trial? They are not real. Have you ever tried making a call from an airplane at 5K? Doenst work!!! Bullshit. Todd Beamer & the others who made calls from the plane did NOT use cell phones. They used the Airfone inflight phone system. You know those little handsets embedded in the back of the seat on some commuter flights? They charge you a lot of $ per minute, but they work just find at any normal altitude. That's what they're for. They've been around since the late '70s. Todd Beamer picked up the receiver & dialed 0 & talked to the Airfone operator. So why were there NO transcripts from the voices of passengers during the trial? The released the transcripts from the hijackers. In order to have transcripts you need to have voice recordings. The CVR (Cockpit Voice Recorder) records ambient sounds in the cockpit (hence the name!) There is no voice recorder in the passenger cabin. Unless the hijackers invited all the passengers to the cockpit for a jolly farewell party I don't see how we could possibly have recordings of the passengers' conversations in the first place. No recordings = no transcripts QED And the "cell phones don't work at altitude" argument is getting pretty stale by the way. Vale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #113 June 21, 2006 everything the "state" says is a lie--Nietzche www.reopen911.org 50% KNOW there is givernment complicity THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY AGENDA IS THE CORRECT WORD we shall have world government, whether we like it or not. it is merely a question ofwhether it will be by consent or conquest--Paul Warburg(testifying to congress) author of "the federal reserve act of 1913"we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #114 June 21, 2006 Quote50% KNOW there is government complicity All that "complicity", and no indictments or convictions? Maybe the 9-11 Commission didn't do such a good job after all, hmm...?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites