Police Charge Girl in Fake Abduction

[storm1977 0]

Yeah...... It's about time they charged this girl.
96K and 1 month in jail sounds good to me :-)


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/04/14/seiler.charged.ap/index.html

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[TheAnvil 0]

Isn't there some jail in the AZ desert where inmates stay in pup tents surrounded by miles of desert and a large chain link/constantine wire fence?

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Isn't there some jail in the AZ desert where inmates stay in pup tents surrounded by miles of desert and a large chain link/constantine wire fence?

maybe if she promises to believe in God she can go to the volunteer run prison in Florida.

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[lawrocket 3]

Once again, thesmokinggun has the documents.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0414042audrey1.html

Apparently, she was distraught over some dude named "Fisher.". The document is pretty fascinating, since it shows what seems to me to be pretty good police work.

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[PhillyKev 0]

Hmmm....that should be what my ex gets charged with. Hope she gets the same penalty.

[benny 0]

Call me a sucker for a pretty face but I think it's ridiculous to charge this chick with a crime. Honestly, let her parents cough up some donation to the police department and get her some psychiatric help. Locking her up doesn't do anyone any good.

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[Gawain 0]

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Call me a sucker for a pretty face but I think it's ridiculous to charge this chick with a crime. Honestly, let her parents cough up some donation to the police department and get her some psychiatric help. Locking her up doesn't do anyone any good.

It's pretty clear, based on the reporting thus far, that she was aware of her actions, and knew "right" from "wrong".

Her emotional issues be damned, her little stunt sucked the resources dry for a week and she needs to be held accountable.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[benny 0]

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Call me a sucker for a pretty face but I think it's ridiculous to charge this chick with a crime. Honestly, let her parents cough up some donation to the police department and get her some psychiatric help. Locking her up doesn't do anyone any good.

It's pretty clear, based on the reporting thus far, that she was aware of her actions, and knew "right" from "wrong".

Her emotional issues be damned, her little stunt sucked the resources dry for a week and she needs to be held accountable.

Umm, so you think she doesn't have issues? Seriously, ok, she cost some money, resources, what have you. Do you really think it's going to do a service to anyone, her, her family, the place she lives, anyone, to lock her in jail? This is ludicrous. It's not like she killed somebody... She literally cried out for attention. God, gimme a break, once again it does no good, noone benefits from locking her up. It doesn't even make an example... all it does is add to the problems of a girl with a fucked up head who could otherwise with the proper treatment be a fully functionioning member of society. This isn't some criminal mastermind we're talking about. BTW, jail costs the taxpayers more money, psychiatric treatment can be paid for through her parents insurance.

Never go to a DZ strip show.

[pajarito 0]

There goes the whole "the criminal is really the victim" defense. She's sane, she knew what she was doing, she broke the law, and now she's got to take responsibility for it and pay a price. You've got to follow the law. You don't "just" go to jail "if you kill somebody."

[Lindsey 0]

I'm with you Benny....this is pretty sad. Jail won't do anybody any good, and the rest of us will have to pay the bill. But I'd like to see her pay what it cost to look for her stupid self, even if it means working it off for the next 10 years. Maybe she'd learn something about herself.

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[benny 0]

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There goes the whole "the criminal is really the victim" defense. She's sane, she knew what she was doing, she broke the law, and now she's got to take responsibility for it and pay a price. You've got to follow the law. You don't "just" go to jail "if you kill somebody."

Hmm, she's sane, well, I'm glad to know I got that straight from a licensed psychiatrist. When'd you get that degree pajarito? Granted murderers are not the only people worthy of inprisonment, however, certain things are hardly worthy of inprisonment. Where do we make the distinction? Maybe we determine who should go to jail or not based on the public good. Ask yourself, once again, does sentencing this young woman to time in jail actually do the public any good? I don't think so... my guesss is that a judge will agree with me... they do so in many cases. If she serves jail time it will be a travesty, community service, fines, whatever, jail time for this is silly.

Never go to a DZ strip show.

[pajarito 0]

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Hmm, she's sane, well, I'm glad to know I got that straight from a licensed psychiatrist. When'd you get that degree pajarito?

I’m certainly not a psychiatrist. Is there one that’s saying that she is, in fact, insane and, therefore, might not be responsible for her illegal actions?

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Granted murderers are not the only people worthy of inprisonment, however, certain things are hardly worthy of inprisonment. Where do we make the distinction?

We make the distinction of whether you go to jail or not based on the laws that we have established.

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Maybe we determine who should go to jail or not based on the public good. Ask yourself, once again, does sentencing this young woman to time in jail actually do the public any good? I don't think so... my guesss is that a judge will agree with me... they do so in many cases. If she serves jail time it will be a travesty, community service, fines, whatever, jail time for this is silly.

It does the public good because it establishes and enforces limits to behavior that we deem to be against the public good. It demonstrates to others that you can’t just get away with doing shit like that. It’s called the law. You’ve got to follow it or you might go to jail.

[benny 0]

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Hmm, she's sane, well, I'm glad to know I got that straight from a licensed psychiatrist. When'd you get that degree pajarito?

I’m certainly not a psychiatrist. Is there one that’s saying that she is, in fact, insane and, therefore, might not be responsible for her illegal actions?

You were the one proclaiming her sanity... I don't know, I think it's fairly obvious that she isn't in the right state of mind and might be better served by having trained mental health professionals review her case. Maybe she is sane, maybe she did what she did out of completely malicious intent. I have a sneaking suspicion that she would be called emotionally disturbed at the very least.

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We make the distinction of whether you go to jail or not based on the laws that we have established.

To an extent, some laws have sentencing guidelines, some have mandatory minimums. I would venture to guess that the judge, if she is found guilty, will have some leeway in how he/she sentences her. In my own personal opinion the judge would be doing a disservice to his constiuents by sentencing her to any jail time. You seem convinced that jail time is appropriate for her. If the statutes which apply to this case allow for reducing sentencing would you be ok with that?

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It does the public good because it establishes and enforces limits to behavior that we deem to be against the public good. It demonstrates to others that you can’t just get away with doing shit like that. It’s called the law. You’ve got to follow it or you might go to jail.

hmm, I gonna go out on a limb here and guess that at some point or another you've broken a law. do you think you yourself should be in jail? would it serve the public good if we locked up every speeder, or litterer? There are a lot of things that the law says you shouldn't do but which we still don't prescribe jail time for.

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[pajarito 0]

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You were the one proclaiming her sanity... I don't know, I think it's fairly obvious that she isn't in the right state of mind and might be better served by having trained mental health professionals review her case. Maybe she is sane, maybe she did what she did out of completely malicious intent. I have a sneaking suspicion that she would be called emotionally disturbed at the very least.

You were the one proclaiming her insanity (or a degree thereof). You could make your argument for “not being in the right state of mind” as an excuse for committing lots of crimes. At some point, people have got to be held accountable for their actions.

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To an extent, some laws have sentencing guidelines, some have mandatory minimums. I would venture to guess that the judge, if she is found guilty, will have some leeway in how he/she sentences her. In my own personal opinion the judge would be doing a disservice to his constiuents by sentencing her to any jail time. You seem convinced that jail time is appropriate for her. If the statutes which apply to this case allow for reducing sentencing would you be ok with that?

I’d be ok with the judge enforcing the law. If he has leeway to reduce sentence and he/she feels that is appropriate for the situation, I’m ok with that.

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hmm, I gonna go out on a limb here and guess that at some point or another you've broken a law. do you think you yourself should be in jail? would it serve the public good if we locked up every speeder, or litterer? There are a lot of things that the law says you shouldn't do but which we still don't prescribe jail time for.

I’ve broken the law before. There have been some things that I’ve done where I should have been caught and put in jail. If I’d been caught, I would have expected that. If you’re going to break the law, you’d better be aware of the consequences. Of course, there are laws that, when broken, don’t require jail time. Looks like what she’s accused of, however, carries up to nine months in jail and a $10,000 fine per count. I didn’t make that up. It’s the law.

[PhillyKev 0]

Dude....my ex has issues too. She's friggin' whacked. She made false police reports, basically the same deal as this chick. But after the shit she put me through, I'd like to see her spend some time behind bars. Not just for revenge. But I think it would honestly show her that there are consequences to her actions and maybe keep her from doing it again.

[tbrown 26]

This was too fishy right from the start. She was supposedly abducted at gunpoint, or was it at knifepoint, I think I've read it both ways. Then days later she's found in a local marsh no worse for wear and tear than being cold and having "muscle aches". There was never a demand for ransom, she wasn't raped, nor did anyone beat her up ? So, not to suggest anyone should do such a thing to her, but WHAT WAS THE POINT of the abduction. Unless it was a followup to her having been mysteriously hit on the back of the head a month before by some unknown person who also didn't rob, rape, beat, or even apparently abduct her. I figured right then that the bop on the head didn't get her the attention she was seeking, so she had to up the ante.

Two years ago there were people mailing themselves talcum powder so they could get attetion during the anthrax scares. It's too bad her mom didn't just go on TV and appeal to her it knock it the hell off and come out of wherever she was hiding...

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