billvon 2,998 #151 April 30, 2004 >If they were so powerful and wealthy and influential, don't you think >they could've stopped the attacks??? The logic here fails me. We are indisuptably the most wealthy and powerful nation in the world; we can't stop all terrorist attacks, whether from overseas or domestically originated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #152 April 30, 2004 QuoteOMG! I just spit soda all over my computer! Thanks so much for the laugh! that was my initial response, but when more than one person says that, its starting to feel wrong. i honestly think i would be ashamed to say something like that , even if i really believed it. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #153 April 30, 2004 I think you were not laughing at all. jews were considered as a "race". at least in hitler's eyes. that's fact. it was not only him calling jews as "the jewish race". that's history. why to spit out ? you obviously do not know or understand. as i said, in very simple words this is conclusion of how jews were considered. i know what i'm talking about. believe what you want. spit out what you need to. it just confirmes scholarship (or lack of) rgds dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #154 April 30, 2004 Quoteknow what i'm talking about. what is it you know? that all jews are rich because they are jews, or that there are some people who believed it in the past 2000 years? there is no doubt jews (race, religion, whatever) were chased because of stupid things with no real background, but you seem to believe there is some kind of jewish cult who secretly controls the world. if there is such a thing, where do i sign? O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #155 April 30, 2004 Just would like to ask you: Do you really not know what i was talking about? what i called "jalousie" simply was business. the jews always were prepared to make a good deal to lend out money if customers were incapable to pay. this at first caused jalousie at the other biz man. the beginning. and in the years between the 2 WW, suddenly the owner of a jewish shop disappeared. this was the next step. did you know that already after 1st WW it was Adolf Hitler's idea to send all jews to Madagasca where they should have built up their own country? of course, leaving their belongings behind them. this is what i considered as jalousie, this f. e. is what i tried to explained in a simple way. whenever you read or hear something about jews, they are called " the jewish race". Hitler wanted to clean Germany (and if possible Europe and the world) from "the jewish race". this is addressed to you and especially @ jimbo: never drink a glass of red wine if "jewish" appear... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #156 April 30, 2004 He you, i am not Robin Hood for the poor Jews.. i just said what i know, been told, been growing up with. thats all. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #157 April 30, 2004 no i dont know what you're talking about. again, if you are saying that its how some people think, i agree. if you're saying that its true, please explain how being jewish makes you a better buisiness man? i mean, if i wont tell you, you'll never know i'm jewish. not from how i act nor by the way i look. and yes, i'm pretty familiar with Hitler's plans, and i'd have more people in my family if he'd stick with his madgaskar plans... O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #158 April 30, 2004 Yes i can explain, just talking to my dad who lost his best friend (jewish one) from one day to the next. this friend was a dentist. successful one. suddenly, from one day to the next, he was gone. there was an Aryan, taking over his rooms. you seem to be a little sensible. sorry for that. i do not want to explain further than that: two sisters of my mother died in concentrantion camps. they were half-"jewish", with russian fathers. my grand mother, born in former russia, was 100 % jewish. guess where she died. this is where i will stop now. everybody has his own story. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #159 April 30, 2004 you;ve misunderstood my question. i didnt ask how being jewish can make you the target of racist acts. i asked how being jewish means you'll be successful in life. sure there were many successful jewish people, but the fact that they were successful has nothing to do with their religion/race. again, people were killed by the Nazis even if their grandfather was half jewish (as you said), but it had nothing to do with their bank accounts. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #160 April 30, 2004 Quoteeverybody has his own story. And some have been told "stories", and took that as truth, rather than looking at history. You are free to believe whatever you wish, no matter how ill-conceived, misrepresentative, or bigoted it is. Jimbo, I wasn't drinking, or perhaps I'd've sprayed my computer with coffee...or perhaps, if I had a mouthful of something, I would've choked in sheer disbelief that someone actually thinks they are able to justify a comment such as she made. Sigh. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #161 April 30, 2004 i'm starting to think she didnt mean what we thought she meant. i think her point was that jews were targetted because people were taught that they were responsible as a nation for all of the troubles. having all the money, influence etc. that is a well known fact. you know me, and i couldnt influence you even enough for you to jump with me O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #162 April 30, 2004 Just one look on the American educational system tells enough. no need do not talk about history. there have none. go ahead. spray some coke over your computer. dietcoke. enjoy it. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #163 April 30, 2004 Quote Just one look on the American educational system tells enough. no need do not talk about history. there have none. go ahead. spray some coke over your computer. dietcoke. enjoy it. What in the world are you talking about? What message or idea are you trying to get across? I am so confused. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #164 April 30, 2004 Quoteshe didnt mean what we thought she meant no, she knows. this is what i tried to explain before: single ones, small groups, bigger groups: unable to stop attacks, unable to help themselves. i tried to explain to Michele. her question why..... this is starting to be a foolish discussion like in school. bi-bi, you're the winner. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #165 April 30, 2004 Quoteyou know me, and i couldnt influence you even enough for you to jump with me Well, that's because you didn't have enough money. LOLOL! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #166 April 30, 2004 Quoteno, she knows. No, sorry, I don't. And what was the reference to diet coke about? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #167 April 30, 2004 With re to "she knows": it was my, i was referring to. and diet coke probably is much easier to spray around you, less calories ??? just try. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #168 April 30, 2004 Hi welcome Jimbo, just read, and you will know.. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #169 April 30, 2004 Quote With re to "she knows": it was my, i was referring to. Ah. All right. Quoteand diet coke probably is much easier to spray around you, less calories ? Ah. All right again. I don't drink cokes, diet or otherwise. But thanks for thinking of my caloric intake/outspray... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #170 April 30, 2004 oh sorry, correction to my own post: it was me (not "my)"... what i learned in school. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #171 April 30, 2004 Lady, i really do not mind what you're drinking. acid, beer, wine or coke, water, whaterver you like. i feel much more concerned of a lack of knowledge. but that's not my biz, best to you dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #172 April 30, 2004 QuoteI don't drink cokes, diet or otherwise. But thanks for thinking of my caloric intake/outspray... i wonder what's the caloric outspray of beer sorry, off topic but had to O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #173 April 30, 2004 Quotei really do not mind what you're drinking. acid, beer, wine or coke, water, whaterver you like. Gee, thanks. I've not drunk acid (and don't think I'll start), beer and wine is for after work, we've already discussed cokes, and water is a good thing.... Quotei feel much more concerned of a lack of knowledge. but that's not my biz, Are you believing that I don't have a knowledge base to speak from? Are you insinuating that I have a "lack of knowledge"? Wow. Cool. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #174 April 30, 2004 QuoteLady, how dare you call her "Lady" ?!?!? not sure about the acid part O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #175 April 30, 2004 Quotehow dare you call her "Lady" ?!?!? not sure about the acid part Hey. Wait just a goldarn minute.... I am a Lady. Never forget that. Just because I'm a tough cookie on top of everything else does not - NOT - negate my "Lady"ness. Besides, that was the only part of her post I agree with. I am, indeed, a Lady. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
