KATO33 0 #1 May 25, 2004 http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/c2kprof00-us.pdf As African American we only Make up 12% of the Population but the unemployment rate is is twice that of whites. Can someone explain? Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 May 25, 2004 I think the list of causes would be longer than the dead sea scrolls, with bits of fault lying with many different parties. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #3 May 25, 2004 First of all let's get rid of that PC expression right there!!!! The white girl on my block that was born in South Africa and became a US citizen might be able to be called and AFRICAN AMERICAN. I am white. You are Black. OK... I insist I be called an Irish AMerican from now on. I am not yelling at you Kato, I am yelling at the PC police that created this nightmare in the 90's. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #4 May 25, 2004 Here is a good one for you Kato from the Census: 75% of Blacks born to women between the ages 18 and 26 in America are born into single parent families. 54% of Black children born in the last 10 yrs were born into single parent families. So, there is one explaination for you. It is a fact that when compareing children raised in a home with two parents to that of one parent, the child is more likely to succeed and more likely to get a higher education. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 May 25, 2004 What do I think the primary cause is? That historically, blacks don't invest in their own communities. There are numerous reasons for that, but that is the main cause of disparity between blacks and more recently arriving immigrants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #6 May 25, 2004 QuoteOK... I insist I be called an Irish AMerican from now on. I have no problem calling you Irish American if that's What you prefer. But if you refuse to honor my request then you are being disrespectful. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #7 May 25, 2004 Quote I have no problem calling you Irish American if that's What you prefer. But if you refuse to honor my request then you are being disrespectful. This is commonly misunderstood ever since the PC people took over this country. In America you do NOT have the right to NOT be offended. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #8 May 25, 2004 QuoteWhat do I think the primary cause is? That historically, blacks don't invest in their own communities. There are numerous reasons for that, but that is the main cause of disparity between blacks and more recently arriving immigrants. What are these numerous reasons you speak of Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #9 May 25, 2004 I think Chris made an excellent point. Your premise is based on the assumption that the unemployment rate is based solely on discrimination. Chris' response indicates that it's not discrimination but a disadvantaged home life that contributes to low employment prospects. Maybe we should also look at the rate of high school graduates among minorities. I'm betting that African American's don't graduate in the same proportion as "European" Americans. Certainly education plays an important part in one's ability to get a good job. Just because blacks have a higher unemployment rate doesn't mean that the lack of employment is caused by discrimination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #10 May 25, 2004 I take that back my numbers were low : QuoteAccording to to the National Center for Health Statistics, unmarried women accounted for 68 percent of black births in 2002 Source: http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/0310/30/a02-311602.htm ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 May 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhat do I think the primary cause is? That historically, blacks don't invest in their own communities. There are numerous reasons for that, but that is the main cause of disparity between blacks and more recently arriving immigrants. What are these numerous reasons you speak of As stated above, longer than the dead sea scrolls. Lack of education and entrepreneurship, cultural proclivity, lack of outside investors, discrimination against blacks (by both whites and blacks). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #12 May 25, 2004 QuoteI think Chris made an excellent point. Your premise is based on the assumption that the unemployment rate is based solely on discrimination. Chris' response indicates that it's not discrimination but a disadvantaged home life that contributes to low employment prospects. Maybe we should also look at the rate of high school graduates among minorities. I'm betting that African American's don't graduate in the same proportion as "European" Americans. Certainly education plays an important part in one's ability to get a good job. Just because blacks have a higher unemployment rate doesn't mean that the lack of employment is caused by discrimination. Chuck you're getting there but you need to go a litle deeper to see my point. And i'm not blind I don't think the rate is what it is soley because of discrimination. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #13 May 25, 2004 QuoteChuck you're getting there but you need to go a litle deeper to see my point. Have you made a point? All I saw was a couple of statistics. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 May 25, 2004 Quote Chuck you're getting there but you need to go a litle deeper to see my point. And i'm not blind I don't think the rate is what it is soley because of discrimination. You asked why unemployment rates are higher. Lower education levels, higher criminal offense rates, fewer employers in their residential area...and then you have the off the wall stuff like the Oakland school board recognizing Ebonics as a legitimate language. Whether it should be or not, employers have different requirements than the ethnic community in question. I'm sure there is still discrimination coming from employers, but blacks can still work on these other factors, and should in place of the use of AA alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #15 May 25, 2004 What is your statistic meant to say? What does percentage of population have to do with percent of a group that is unemployed? Hispanics out number blacks, and asians are fewer in number than blacks, but both have lower unemployment rates. I'll put out the numbers I thought might mean more. (in thousands) White work force: 120,195 White unemployed: 6,138 percent unemp: 5.1% lower and higher Blck/Afrc work force: 16,417 Blck/Afrc unemployed: 1,691 percent unemp: 10.3 lower and higher Asian work force: 6,029 Asian unemployed: 348 precent unemp: 5.8% and lower Total work force of three groups: 142, 641 Total unemployed of three groups: 8,177 White % of total unemp: 75% Blck/Afrc % total unemp: 20% Asian % of total unemp: 4% (actually, US born "African-American" unemployment is higher than listed because new immigrants, such as black caribs, have a much lower unemployment rate than US born blacks) As to causes, in my observations, it comes from (A) lack of cultural dedication to education or self improvement in US born blacks, (B) from "leaders" who encourage people to be victims, and (C) a welfare state that discourages effort.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #16 May 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteBut if you refuse to honor my request then you are being disrespectful. I'll call you whatever you want, but he's just pointing out how silly the whole identification of skin color via country/continent of origin is. We've already heard about this from some of the WHITE "African Americans" around these forums. Really, don't you think it's just silly? Edit: To answer your question, I think 400 years of being beat down by whites might have something to do with the current lag in black prosperity. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #17 May 25, 2004 QuoteYour premise is based on the assumption that the unemployment rate is based solely on discrimination. Chris' response indicates that it's not discrimination but a disadvantaged home life that contributes to low employment prospects. Maybe we should also look at the rate of high school graduates among minorities. I'm betting that African American's don't graduate in the same proportion as "European" Americans. Certainly education plays an important part in one's ability to get a good job. Just because blacks have a higher unemployment rate doesn't mean that the lack of employment is caused by discrimination. Go here http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1090518#1090518 I have attached a chart."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nathaniel 0 #18 May 25, 2004 The only African people in America I know are white... I know several black people, but afaik they're no more African than I am. I saw an article recently that More young black men have done prison time than military service or earned college degree (The link will expire in a day or two) from the article published this week in American Sociological Review and about a study at the University of Washington: Quote The study looks at men born from 1945 through 1969 focusing on two groups – those born from 1945 through 1949 and those born from 1965 through 1969. It draws on publicly available data on inmates in federal and state prisons from the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, but does not include information on spending time in local jails, which hold an estimated one-third of the incarcerated prison population. Hispanics were not included because data was not available, particularly about men born in the 1940s. The incarceration rate for black men born in 1945-49 was 10.6 percent by the time they were in their early 30s, but increased to 20.5 percent for those born in 1965-69. Among white men the overall risk of imprisonment grew from 1.4 percent to 2.9 percent over the same time period. Without addressing why this might be the case, I'd say it's probably a factor. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #19 May 25, 2004 QuoteBut if you refuse to honor my request then you are being disrespectful. Why?have you ever BEEN to Africa? Can you name me five countries IN Africa? I know several people that get their knickers in a knot over wanting to be called "African American" that can't. Are you one of them? Good God who gives a shit! It is that attitude that just increases the racial issues. Why not just be happy being an American named Chris? I don't get upset if people don't call me English- Irish-Scottish-Germain-Native American- American. When ask what I am I just say American. If they push I'm white (and other than Michael Jackson NOONE is white, I'm like a nice tan arms and legs with a ghost white chest). You demand to be called "African American"???? Fine, I'll call you Desmond von sky puppy esquire the third if it will make you happy. But you are still just black like I am just white. I think you are being disrespectful to America to demand that we add "African" to it. Like I said most don't know squat about Africa."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #20 May 25, 2004 QuoteMore young black men have done prison time than military service or earned college degree Being jailed in federal or state prisons has become so common today that more young black men in the United States have done time than have served in the military or earned a college degree, according to new study. The paper, appearing this week in the American Sociological Review, estimates that 20 percent of all black men born from 1965 through 1969 had served time in prison by the time they reached their early 30s. By comparison, less than 3 percent of white males born in the same time period had been in prison. Equally startling, the risks of prison incarceration rose steeply with lower levels of education. Among blacks, 30.2 percent of those who didn't attend college had gone to prison by 1999 and 58.9 percent of black high school dropouts born from 1965 through 1969 had served time in state or federal prison by their early 30s. "More strikingly than patterns of military enlistment, marriage or college graduation, prison time differentiates the young adulthood of black men from the life course of white males. Imprisonment is now a common life event for an entire demographic group," said Becky Pettit, one of the study's authors and a University of Washington assistant professor of sociology. Bruce Western, a Princeton University professor of sociology, is the co-author. The study looks at men born from 1945 through 1969 focusing on two groups – those born from 1945 through 1949 and those born from 1965 through 1969. It draws on publicly available data on inmates in federal and state prisons from the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, but does not include information on spending time in local jails, which hold an estimated one-third of the incarcerated prison population. Hispanics were not included because data was not available, particularly about men born in the 1940s. The incarceration rate for black men born in 1945-49 was 10.6 percent by the time they were in their early 30s, but increased to 20.5 percent for those born in 1965-69. Among white men the overall risk of imprisonment grew from 1.4 percent to 2.9 percent over the same time period. The increase in the incarceration marked a dramatic shift in the life course for young black males. In addition to estimating the risk of incarceration for birth cohorts by race and education, the researchers compared the prevalence of spending time in prison to other important life events for men born in 1965-69 who survived until 1999. Pettit and Western found that 22.4 percent of surviving black men born in that period had spent time in jail, while just 17.4 percent had served in the military and only 12.5 percent had earned a bachelor's degree. By the end of 1999, 1.3 million men were in federal or state prisons. The researchers said that changes in penal policy through the 1970s and 80s, including custodial sentences for drug offenses and mandatory minimum sentences, helped fuel the expansion of the penal system and has led to growing disparities in the risk of incarceration by education. "Prison is no longer just for the most violent or incorrigible offenders. Inmates are increasingly likely to be serving time for drug offenses or property crimes," Pettit said. "While there is enduring racial disproportionality in imprisonment, we find that the lifetime risk of incarceration is increasingly stratified by education. Over the past 30 years the risk of incarceration has grown for both blacks and whites, but has grown the fastest among men who have a high school diploma or less." "This has become increasingly important because we know ex-prisoners face a variety of challenges after incarceration," said Western. "These range from employer discrimination in the job market to increased risks of divorce and separation in family life. The experience of imprisonment in America has emerged as a key social division marking a new pattern in the lives of recent birth cohorts of black men." ### The research was supported in part by the National Science Foundation and the Russell Sage Foundation. For more information, contact Pettit, who is currently a visiting scholar at the Russell Sage Foundation in New York, at 212-750-6036 or bpettit@u.washington.edu or Western at 609-258-2445 or western@opr.princeton.edu. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KATO33 0 #21 May 25, 2004 QuoteThe only African people in America I know are white... I know several black people, but afaik they're no more African than I am. And Whats your point Are you saying Black people in america can't claim Africa as part of their ancestry. There is a quote that goes "you end where you begin" If we deny ourselves our connection to Africa then we do ourselves a disservice. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #22 May 25, 2004 QuoteAs African American we only Make up 12% of the Population but the unemployment rate is is twice that of whites. I still think the whole "we" thing is racist. Anyone drawing lines because of race is racist, no? Isn't affirmative action racist? Anytime someone denies something, or offers something, or does something out of the ordinary because of skin color, isn't that racism? Also, why do some people insist that all US born blacks be called "African-Americans?" Most have never been there, and are not sure they descended from there. And what about blacks not descended from Africa (caribbean origin, or south american)? Why should they be called African-American?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KATO33 0 #23 May 26, 2004 QuoteWhy?have you ever BEEN to Africa? No QuoteCan you name me five countries IN Africa? Yes This is sorta off the topic because I personally use African American & Black interchangeably Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nathaniel 0 #24 May 26, 2004 Quote And Whats your point Are you saying Black people in america can't claim Africa as part of their ancestry. It's that the groups you distinguished are not entirely distinguishable. Are you asserting that I can't claim Africa as part of my ancestry? I'll tell you now: I don't have any living African relatives and I've never been to Africa. Likewise Anglos, Saxons, and Lithuanians. But I still believe I've got African ancestry, it's just that it was probably more in the thousands BC than AD. So here's the point: it's all relative, and the imprecision of the language can give rise to inaccurate statements. Edit: So, to address your literal question, what do you suppose is the average unemployment in African nations? gripe: It's practically impossible to discuss issues of race without getting cast into racism... nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KATO33 0 #25 May 26, 2004 QuoteAlso, why do some people insist that all US born blacks be called "African-Americans?" Most have never been there, and are not sure they descended from there. And what about blacks not descended from Africa (caribbean origin, or south american)? Why should they be called African-American? I personally don't insist on just prefer it sometimes like isaid before it's interchangeable for me Af Am or Blk? Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Ron 10 #17 May 25, 2004 QuoteYour premise is based on the assumption that the unemployment rate is based solely on discrimination. Chris' response indicates that it's not discrimination but a disadvantaged home life that contributes to low employment prospects. Maybe we should also look at the rate of high school graduates among minorities. I'm betting that African American's don't graduate in the same proportion as "European" Americans. Certainly education plays an important part in one's ability to get a good job. Just because blacks have a higher unemployment rate doesn't mean that the lack of employment is caused by discrimination. Go here http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1090518#1090518 I have attached a chart."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #18 May 25, 2004 The only African people in America I know are white... I know several black people, but afaik they're no more African than I am. I saw an article recently that More young black men have done prison time than military service or earned college degree (The link will expire in a day or two) from the article published this week in American Sociological Review and about a study at the University of Washington: Quote The study looks at men born from 1945 through 1969 focusing on two groups – those born from 1945 through 1949 and those born from 1965 through 1969. It draws on publicly available data on inmates in federal and state prisons from the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, but does not include information on spending time in local jails, which hold an estimated one-third of the incarcerated prison population. Hispanics were not included because data was not available, particularly about men born in the 1940s. The incarceration rate for black men born in 1945-49 was 10.6 percent by the time they were in their early 30s, but increased to 20.5 percent for those born in 1965-69. Among white men the overall risk of imprisonment grew from 1.4 percent to 2.9 percent over the same time period. Without addressing why this might be the case, I'd say it's probably a factor. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #19 May 25, 2004 QuoteBut if you refuse to honor my request then you are being disrespectful. Why?have you ever BEEN to Africa? Can you name me five countries IN Africa? I know several people that get their knickers in a knot over wanting to be called "African American" that can't. Are you one of them? Good God who gives a shit! It is that attitude that just increases the racial issues. Why not just be happy being an American named Chris? I don't get upset if people don't call me English- Irish-Scottish-Germain-Native American- American. When ask what I am I just say American. If they push I'm white (and other than Michael Jackson NOONE is white, I'm like a nice tan arms and legs with a ghost white chest). You demand to be called "African American"???? Fine, I'll call you Desmond von sky puppy esquire the third if it will make you happy. But you are still just black like I am just white. I think you are being disrespectful to America to demand that we add "African" to it. Like I said most don't know squat about Africa."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 May 25, 2004 QuoteMore young black men have done prison time than military service or earned college degree Being jailed in federal or state prisons has become so common today that more young black men in the United States have done time than have served in the military or earned a college degree, according to new study. The paper, appearing this week in the American Sociological Review, estimates that 20 percent of all black men born from 1965 through 1969 had served time in prison by the time they reached their early 30s. By comparison, less than 3 percent of white males born in the same time period had been in prison. Equally startling, the risks of prison incarceration rose steeply with lower levels of education. Among blacks, 30.2 percent of those who didn't attend college had gone to prison by 1999 and 58.9 percent of black high school dropouts born from 1965 through 1969 had served time in state or federal prison by their early 30s. "More strikingly than patterns of military enlistment, marriage or college graduation, prison time differentiates the young adulthood of black men from the life course of white males. Imprisonment is now a common life event for an entire demographic group," said Becky Pettit, one of the study's authors and a University of Washington assistant professor of sociology. Bruce Western, a Princeton University professor of sociology, is the co-author. The study looks at men born from 1945 through 1969 focusing on two groups – those born from 1945 through 1949 and those born from 1965 through 1969. It draws on publicly available data on inmates in federal and state prisons from the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, but does not include information on spending time in local jails, which hold an estimated one-third of the incarcerated prison population. Hispanics were not included because data was not available, particularly about men born in the 1940s. The incarceration rate for black men born in 1945-49 was 10.6 percent by the time they were in their early 30s, but increased to 20.5 percent for those born in 1965-69. Among white men the overall risk of imprisonment grew from 1.4 percent to 2.9 percent over the same time period. The increase in the incarceration marked a dramatic shift in the life course for young black males. In addition to estimating the risk of incarceration for birth cohorts by race and education, the researchers compared the prevalence of spending time in prison to other important life events for men born in 1965-69 who survived until 1999. Pettit and Western found that 22.4 percent of surviving black men born in that period had spent time in jail, while just 17.4 percent had served in the military and only 12.5 percent had earned a bachelor's degree. By the end of 1999, 1.3 million men were in federal or state prisons. The researchers said that changes in penal policy through the 1970s and 80s, including custodial sentences for drug offenses and mandatory minimum sentences, helped fuel the expansion of the penal system and has led to growing disparities in the risk of incarceration by education. "Prison is no longer just for the most violent or incorrigible offenders. Inmates are increasingly likely to be serving time for drug offenses or property crimes," Pettit said. "While there is enduring racial disproportionality in imprisonment, we find that the lifetime risk of incarceration is increasingly stratified by education. Over the past 30 years the risk of incarceration has grown for both blacks and whites, but has grown the fastest among men who have a high school diploma or less." "This has become increasingly important because we know ex-prisoners face a variety of challenges after incarceration," said Western. "These range from employer discrimination in the job market to increased risks of divorce and separation in family life. The experience of imprisonment in America has emerged as a key social division marking a new pattern in the lives of recent birth cohorts of black men." ### The research was supported in part by the National Science Foundation and the Russell Sage Foundation. For more information, contact Pettit, who is currently a visiting scholar at the Russell Sage Foundation in New York, at 212-750-6036 or bpettit@u.washington.edu or Western at 609-258-2445 or western@opr.princeton.edu. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #21 May 25, 2004 QuoteThe only African people in America I know are white... I know several black people, but afaik they're no more African than I am. And Whats your point Are you saying Black people in america can't claim Africa as part of their ancestry. There is a quote that goes "you end where you begin" If we deny ourselves our connection to Africa then we do ourselves a disservice. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #22 May 25, 2004 QuoteAs African American we only Make up 12% of the Population but the unemployment rate is is twice that of whites. I still think the whole "we" thing is racist. Anyone drawing lines because of race is racist, no? Isn't affirmative action racist? Anytime someone denies something, or offers something, or does something out of the ordinary because of skin color, isn't that racism? Also, why do some people insist that all US born blacks be called "African-Americans?" Most have never been there, and are not sure they descended from there. And what about blacks not descended from Africa (caribbean origin, or south american)? Why should they be called African-American?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #23 May 26, 2004 QuoteWhy?have you ever BEEN to Africa? No QuoteCan you name me five countries IN Africa? Yes This is sorta off the topic because I personally use African American & Black interchangeably Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #24 May 26, 2004 Quote And Whats your point Are you saying Black people in america can't claim Africa as part of their ancestry. It's that the groups you distinguished are not entirely distinguishable. Are you asserting that I can't claim Africa as part of my ancestry? I'll tell you now: I don't have any living African relatives and I've never been to Africa. Likewise Anglos, Saxons, and Lithuanians. But I still believe I've got African ancestry, it's just that it was probably more in the thousands BC than AD. So here's the point: it's all relative, and the imprecision of the language can give rise to inaccurate statements. Edit: So, to address your literal question, what do you suppose is the average unemployment in African nations? gripe: It's practically impossible to discuss issues of race without getting cast into racism... nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #25 May 26, 2004 QuoteAlso, why do some people insist that all US born blacks be called "African-Americans?" Most have never been there, and are not sure they descended from there. And what about blacks not descended from Africa (caribbean origin, or south american)? Why should they be called African-American? I personally don't insist on just prefer it sometimes like isaid before it's interchangeable for me Af Am or Blk? Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
