Ron 10 #51 June 3, 2004 QuoteThats true, and I wouldnt argue that in that situation turning 'off' the gas is not difficult Agreed... And All I was trying to get you to admit was this. QuoteMaybe its not the grunts fault, maybe the OIC should have stepped in and called a ceasefire at that point.....whatever...the way it was done....in the circumstances we SEE and the 'jubilations' afterwards just stink It is clearly a leadership issue. I don't disagree with the 'jubilations'...I'd be glad to be alive as well. But you also wrote "What we SEE" But what about what we don't see? There is always outside issues to be looked at...and I don't think I would take the medias version of ANY event. Was it wrong to shoot the guy? Yes. Was it understandable? Yes."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #52 June 7, 2004 Everything but the WMD! I do not care a damn about Iraq or its people. But it is nice to know where 150 MILLION MILLION of our dollars went! After all, inside every Iraq man, woman and child is an American trying to get out! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beej 0 #53 June 7, 2004 ..on a tangent... an American 'billion' is not infact a 'million million', but is '1000 million'...the British 'billion' is a 'million million'. ---------------------------------------------------- If the shit fits - wear it (blues brothers)-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites