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you do not have to like somesone politics to honor him as a person.

I do not like clinton but i would honor him if he were to die today.

If you want to bash him start a thread to bash him, but lets honor him here.

God speed Mr. President, may your skys be forever blue
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I wrote this in my post in the Bonfire thread, but I wanted to post it here, as well:

We have lost a great man and great leader in President Reagan. Not only was he a great president, but he was a genuinely good man, which is so very rare. He was such a big part of my life and will be truly missed. At least now, he is free from the illness that he was bound to while on earth.

Poor Nancy...theirs was such a touching, beautiful love story. His beautiful, romantic love letters to her have made me deeply admire him even more than I already did on a level that was surprisingly personal. His obvious love and respect for Nancy, his ability to love so wholly and purely, his ability to recognize how rare unconditional love is, his gratitude towards Nancy for giving him the gift of love...speaks volumes of him as a man. It only proves his intelligence that he managed to figure out one of the greatest mysteries of life...not only being happy with himself, but being truly happy and completely content with the one that he loves. I find that highly admirable and inspirational.

May you finally rest in peace, Mr. President Ronald Reagan.

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you do not have to like somesone politics to honor him as a person.

I do not like clinton but i would honor him if he were to die today.

If you want to bash him start a thread to bash him, but lets honor him here.

God speed Mr. President, may your skys be forever blue



Why? Why would you speak differently when they are dead. I've been present at far too many deaths to dishonor them by speaking bullshit. Yeah, yeah, I know, you've been conditioned by society that's what you do, and those who don't, ring your societally installed alarm as assholes.

He was a man, our president, a consumate actor and above all, a politician who made it to the top ...don't see any need to say wonderful things about him just cause he died.

As a kid, I was really moved by John Kennedy. As a man, I can appreciate some of the things he did ...he was still another slick politician who made it to the top ...for a while.

I know most go deep into tribal conditioning in circumstances surrounding death and my words strike you as meaningless and maybe just plain mean. As a good member of the tribal collective, i know you will do what you are conditioned to do and go through the glowing praise for the dead rituals.

Not dancing round the fire and chanting rituals isn't bashing ...but I doubt the natives will like it much.

Michael

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Seeing clips of RR shown on the news makes me realize once again what bozos we have around these days. He was a true orator and a great, great, great, great, great, great, great (ad infinitum) President.
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Actually there is no need for me to say how much I admired president Reagan because anybody who knows me will have already realized this. I remember when I was still in college we (Rutgers college Republicans) would celebrate Reagan's birthday on February 6). I will continue to honor him on this day as his accomplishments remain imortal.
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I am so saddened by this. Nancy is a saint, her suffering a story we'll likely never know. I'm thankful that she will not need to keep this chapter going in her life.

President Reagan is a hero to me. I've missed him since he left office. He restored pride in this country. He crushed self-doubt. He always made me feel like there was something better yet to come, even at high points in this country's history.

May God Bless Ronald Reagan, and his family.



Ditto. Nancy's devotion over the past 10 years has been incredible. I am a member at the Reagan Library. When high-profile speakers were there, Nancy attended the functions, but as soon as they were done speaking, she was headed right back home to Mr. Reagan. The Reagan's friends' were getting very concerned about her health because she always wanted to be his primary caregiver, and was wearing herself out.

God bless both of them.
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Reagan's daughter, actress-writer Patti Davis, gave details from her father's death bed, where she gathered on Saturday afternoon with her brother, Ron, and Nancy Reagan.


In an article to be published on Thursday in People Magazine, Davis, once the most rebellious of the four Reagan offspring, said, "At the last moment, when his breathing told us this was it, he opened his eyes and looked straight at my mother."


"Eyes that hadn't opened for days did, and they weren't chalky or vague. They were clear and blue and full of love. If a death can be lovely, his was."


Davis embraced and comforted her mother on Monday as the late president's coffin was placed in repose. In her article in People, for which the magazine said she was not paid, Davis added that Reagan's death taught her "that there is nothing stronger than love between two people, two souls."

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"At the last moment, when his breathing told us this was it, he opened his eyes and looked straight at my mother."
"Eyes that hadn't opened for days did, and they weren't chalky or vague. They were clear and blue and full of love. If a death can be lovely, his was."



This is beautiful. A love story for the record books.

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"Eyes that hadn't opened for days did, and they weren't chalky or vague. They were clear and blue and full of love. If a death can be lovely, his was."



People sometimes perceive what they need to perceive when in emotional overload.

I've seen many people die. I have never seen this and sincerely doubt it validity, but if it helps her cope with her emotions, I'll go along with it.

Michael

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I just offered it to show a daughter's perception of her father's death. I'm not sure what argument you're looking for. sheesh.



Argument? Ahhh, kind of an internet Rorschach test I guess ..."I see someone who wants an argument"

Michael

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Was it just me or did Ron’s eulogy take a bit of a political stab at Bush in the religious sense? It seemed as though, in describing his Father’s faith and how he didn’t necessarily wear it on his sleeve like some other politicians, that he was indirectly making a statement about the current President. I believe I could have kept politics out of the eulogy for my Dad. Again, I could be wrong.

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Was it just me or did Ron’s eulogy take a bit of a political stab at Bush in the religious sense? It seemed as though, in describing his Father’s faith and how he didn’t necessarily wear it on his sleeve like some other politicians, that he was indirectly making a statement about the current President. I believe I could have kept politics out of the eulogy for my Dad. Again, I could be wrong.



Maybe he just said what he felt on the occasion of his father's funeral.

He isn't a politician, he probably says what he means and means what he says. He was praising his Dad, not apologizing for someone else.
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Was it just me or did Ron’s eulogy take a bit of a political stab at Bush in the religious sense? It seemed as though, in describing his Father’s faith and how he didn’t necessarily wear it on his sleeve like some other politicians, that he was indirectly making a statement about the current President. I believe I could have kept politics out of the eulogy for my Dad. Again, I could be wrong.



Maybe he just said what he felt on the occasion of his father's funeral.

He isn't a politician, he probably says what he means and means what he says. He was praising his Dad, not apologizing for someone else.



Maybe so and, you're right, he's not a politician, however, I know that he's a very outspoken visible figure who voices his liberal political views. Correct? Am I the only person who caught this? Again, like you said, maybe he was just saying what he felt for the occasion. I'll bet he practiced and prepared for it, though. His Dad's death was not sudden and unexpected.

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Was it just me or did Ron’s eulogy take a bit of a political stab at Bush in the religious sense? It seemed as though, in describing his Father’s faith and how he didn’t necessarily wear it on his sleeve like some other politicians, that he was indirectly making a statement about the current President. I believe I could have kept politics out of the eulogy for my Dad. Again, I could be wrong.



Since pols on both sides do it, this is an impartial question.

Do you think it appropriate for a politician of any party to use religion for political advantage?

Maybe he just said what he felt on the occasion of his father's funeral.

He isn't a politician, he probably says what he means and means what he says. He was praising his Dad, not apologizing for someone else.



Maybe so and, you're right, he's not a politician, however, I know that he's a very outspoken visible figure who voices his liberal political views. Correct? Am I the only person who caught this? Again, like you said, maybe he was just saying what he felt for the occasion. I'll bet he practiced and prepared for it, though. His Dad's death was not sudden and unexpected.


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