DrunkMonkey 0 #1 June 9, 2004 I'm not saying if I agree with this, just wanted to see what comments it would get... http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20040608 REAGAN'S SHAMEFUL LEGACY Mourn for Us, Not the Proto-Bush NEW YORK--For a few weeks, it became routine. I heard them dragging luggage down the hall. They paused in a little lounge near the dormitory elevator to bid farewell to people they'd met during their single semester. Those I knew knocked on my door. "What are you going to do?" I asked. "Where are you going to go?" A shrug. They were eighteen years old and their bright futures had evaporated. They had worked hard in junior and senior high school, harder than most, but none of that mattered now. President Reagan, explained the form letters from the Office of Financial Aid, had slashed the federal education budget. Which is why the same grim tableau of shattered hopes and dreams was playing itself out across the country. Colleges and universities were evicting their best and brightest, straight A students, stripping them of scholarships. Some transferred to less-expensive community colleges; others dropped into the low-wage workforce. Now, nearly a quarter century later, they are still less financially secure and less educated than they should have been. Our nation is poorer for having denied them their potential. They were by no means the hardest-hit victims of Reaganism. Reagan's quack economists trashed scholarships and turned welfare recipients into homeless people and refused to do anything about the AIDS epidemic, all so they could fund extravagant tax cuts for a tiny sliver of the ultra rich. Their supply-side sales pitch, that the rich would buy so much stuff from everybody else that the economy would boom and government coffers would fill up, never panned out. The Reagan boom lasted just three years and created only low-wage jobs. When the '80s were over, we were buried in the depths of recession and a trillion bucks in debt. Poverty grew, cities decayed, crime rose. It took over a decade to dig out. Reagan's defenders, people who don't know the facts or choose to ignore them, claim that "everybody" admired Reagan's ebullient personality even if some disagreed with his politics. That, like the Gipper's tall tales about welfare queens and "homeless by choice" urban campers, is a lie. Millions of Americans cringed at Reagan's simplistic rhetoric, were terrified that his anti-Soviet "evil empire" posturing would provoke World War III, and thought that his appeal to selfishness and greed--a bastardized blend of Adam Smith and Ayn Rand--brought out the worst in us. We rolled our eyes when Reagan quipped "There you go again"; what the hell did that mean? Given that he made flying a living hell (by firing the air traffic controllers and regulating the airlines), I'm not the only one who refuses to call Washington National Airport by its new name. His clown-like dyed hair and rouged cheeks disgusted us. We hated him during the dark days he made so hideous, and, with all due respect, we hate him still. Not everybody buys the myth that Reagan won the Cold War by demanding that Mikhail Gorbachev "tear down this [Berlin] wall" or bankrupting the Soviet Union via the arms race--Zbigniew Brezinski's plot to "draw the Russians into the Afghan trap" by funding the mujahedeen, Chernobyl and covert U.S. schemes to destabilize the ruble had more to do with the end of the USSR. Gangsterism replaced the ossified cult of the state, millions of Russians were reduced to paupers, revived radical Islamism in Central Asia and eliminated our sole major ideological and military rival. That increased our arrogance and insularity, left us in charge of the world and to blame for everything, paving the road to 9/11. (Reagan even armed the attacks' future perpetrators.) Anyway, the Cold War isn't over. In which direction do you think those old ICBMs point today? The lionizers are correct about one thing: Reagan was one of our most influential presidents since FDR, whose New Deal safety net he carefully disassembled. He pioneered policies now being implemented by George W. Bush: trickle down economics, corporate deregulation, radicalizing the courts, slithering around inconvenient laws and international treaties. On the domestic front, he unraveled America's century-old social contract. What the poor needed was a kick in the ass, not a handout, said a president whose wealthy patrons bought him a house and put clothes on his wife Nancy. National parks were to be exploited for timber and oil, not protected. The federal tax code, originally conceived to redistribute wealth from top to bottom, was "reformed" to eradicate social justice. Bush also models his approach to foreign policy on that of the original Teflon President. Reagan elevated unjustifiable military action to an art. In 1983, anxious to look tough after cutting and running from Lebanon, Reagan sent marines to topple the Marxist government of Grenada. His pretext for invading this Caribbean island was the urgent plight of 500 medical students supposedly besieged by rampaging mobs. But when they arrived at the airport in the United States, the quizzical young men and women told reporters they were confused, never having felt endangered or seen any unrest. In a bizarre 1985 effort to free a few American hostages being held in Lebanon, Reagan authorized the sale of 107 tons of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, at the time one of our staunchest enemies, with the proceeds to be used to fund rightist death squads in Nicaragua--something Congress had expressly forbidden him to do. Evidence strongly suggests that Iran-Contra was at least his second dirty deal with Islamic Iran, the first being the October Surprise, which delayed the release of the Iranian embassy hostages until after the 1980 election was over. Ronald Reagan eventually admitted to "trading arms for hostages," yet avoided prosecution for treason and the death penalty. Reagan, like Bush 43, technically served in the military yet studiously avoided combat. Both men were physically robust, intellectually inadequate, poorly traveled former governors renowned for stabbing friends on the back--Reagan when he named names during McCarthyism. Both appointed former generals as secretaries of state and enemies of the environment to head the Department of the Interior. Both refused to read detailed briefings, worked short hours, behaved erratically in public appearances, ducked questions about sordid pasts, and relied on Christianist (the radical right equivalent of Islamist) depictions of foes as "evil" and America, invariably as embodied by himself and the Republicans, as "good." Based on intelligence as phony as that floated to justify the war against Iraq, Reagan bombed Muslim Libya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 June 9, 2004 The author needs medical attention. From a team of doctors - a chiropracter, a proctologist, and a neurosurgeon. He's got one HELL of a case of cranial-rectal inversion. And no class. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,102 #3 June 9, 2004 QuoteThe author needs medical attention. From a team of doctors - a chiropracter, a proctologist, and a neurosurgeon. He's got one HELL of a case of cranial-rectal inversion. And no class. I'll agree on the "no class". This could have waited. I disagree on the other. Which SPECIFIC statements do you dispute? (You can wait until next week, to show a little class.)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 June 9, 2004 QuotePresident Reagan, explained the form letters from the Office of Financial Aid, had slashed the federal education budget. Which is why the same grim tableau of shattered hopes and dreams was playing itself out across the country Well, I am going to school without financial aid...My sister went through on loans...They could have stayed. They made a choice to leave since it was not cheap/free and they would have to WORK for it. Quoteand turned welfare recipients into homeless people I'd rather have them homless than living on my dollar..If they are comfertable in the government housing they would never get a job... Quoterefused to do anything about the AIDS epidemic No one at that time knew how bad it was. QuoteReagan's defenders, people who don't know the facts or choose to ignore them Or people like Reagan's attackers hate to admit he was a good guy that did good things....From his early days where he put himself through school, and supported his Mother and siblings while his alcoholic father squandered any money they had. Or when he wa s alife guard that save almost 100 people from drowning in his time there. Quote, like the Gipper's tall tales about welfare queens Like it or not welfare queens do exist. QuoteGiven that he made flying a living hell (by firing the air traffic controllers and regulating the airlines) Could be that the controlers made life a living hell by risking lives by threatening to strike....A strike BTW that was illegal. QuoteGangsterism replaced the ossified cult of the state, millions of Russians were reduced to paupers, revived radical Islamism in Central Asia and eliminated our sole major ideological and military rival. A Job well done. QuoteWhat the poor needed was a kick in the ass, not a handout and they still need a kick in the ass...He was poor and he made a life for himself...I was poor, and I'm doing OK. OK Im tired of this..... He was a good man, and he did good things...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #5 June 9, 2004 i agree with all of your remarks. IF YOU CAN'T FIND AN HONORABLE WAY TO SUPPORT YOURSELF IN AMERICA, THEN YOU DESERVE TO FALL BY THE WAYSIDE! afterall, it's easier here than anywhere else."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #6 June 9, 2004 Aww. Boo hoo. The landslide elected conservative wasn't a socialist/communist. Oh, heaven's to betsy, he didn't put another country's interest before that of the nation he led. Oh, goodness-sake, he wasn't a bleeding heart liberal. "Piss off," to whatever uncooth flake wrote that.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrewstewart 0 #7 June 9, 2004 QuoteWell, I am going to school without financial aid... You've got over 3000 jumps and have been in the sport for 11 years, and yet you're going to school? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,515 #8 June 9, 2004 QuoteYou've got over 3000 jumps and have been in the sport for 11 years, and yet you're going to school? Why shouldn't he? Lots of people go back; they want to change their direction, or improve it, or they just want new viewpoints on the world. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 June 9, 2004 Ahhh Kallend - why wait? Mr. Rall isn't dead, though the world would certainly be a better place should he meet his demise soon. His Pat Tillman cartoon made my blood boil. I avidly hate few people (I don't even really hate John Kerry) but Ted Rall I loathe with every molecule, atom, and quark in my body. Quote NEW YORK--For a few weeks, it became routine. I heard them dragging luggage down the hall. They paused in a little lounge near the dormitory elevator to bid farewell to people they'd met during their single semester. Those I knew knocked on my door. "What are you going to do?" I asked. "Where are you going to go?" A shrug. They were eighteen years old and their bright futures had evaporated. They had worked hard in junior and senior high school, harder than most, but none of that mattered now. President Reagan, explained the form letters from the Office of Financial Aid, had slashed the federal education budget. Which is why the same grim tableau of shattered hopes and dreams was playing itself out across the country. Colleges and universities were evicting their best and brightest, straight A students, stripping them of scholarships. Some transferred to less-expensive community colleges; others dropped into the low-wage workforce. Now, nearly a quarter century later, they are still less financially secure and less educated than they should have been. Our nation is poorer for having denied them their potential. Best and brightest yet they relied on FEDERAL scholarships? I don't think so. Quote They were by no means the hardest-hit victims of Reaganism. Reagan's quack economists trashed scholarships and turned welfare recipients into homeless people and refused to do anything about the AIDS epidemic, all so they could fund extravagant tax cuts for a tiny sliver of the ultra rich. Note to idiot-boy Rall. THE RICH PAY THE MOST TAXES. With regards to the AIDS epidemic - hindsight is bliss. Quote Their supply-side sales pitch, that the rich would buy so much stuff from everybody else that the economy would boom and government coffers would fill up, never panned out. The Reagan boom lasted just three years and created only low-wage jobs. Lie. Quote When the '80s were over, we were buried in the depths of recession and a trillion bucks in debt. Poverty grew, cities decayed, crime rose. It took over a decade to dig out. Poverty grew in the 80's? Really? Odd that Bush was in office and not Reagan at the decade's end. Of course Rall isn't one to let facts get in the way of his arguments, is he? Bush left El Jefe Clintonista with a booming economy, Mr. Rall, by the way. What sort of economy did his son inherit when he assumed the Presidency? Can you say RECESSION Mr. Rall? I knew you could. Quote Reagan's defenders, people who don't know the facts or choose to ignore them, claim that "everybody" admired Reagan's ebullient personality even if some disagreed with his politics. Try again lying liberal. We know the facts well and refuse to let morons like yourself distort them Mr. Rall. Quote That, like the Gipper's tall tales about welfare queens and "homeless by choice" urban campers, is a lie. No Mr. Rall, your statement is a lie. The Gipper had it right on there. Quote Millions of Americans cringed at Reagan's simplistic rhetoric, were terrified that his anti-Soviet "evil empire" posturing would provoke World War III, Unlike lefties, Reagan wanted to win the Cold War and not continue it. The victory of capitalism over socialism just really rankles modern day lefties, many of whom want communism so bad they can taste it. Quote and thought that his appeal to selfishness and greed--a bastardized blend of Adam Smith and Ayn Rand--brought out the worst in us. What appeal to those qualities are you referring to? Quote We rolled our eyes when Reagan quipped "There you go again"; what the hell did that mean? Because you're arrogant snobs with an attitude conservatives have absolutely no respect for, Mr. Rall. Quote Given that he made flying a living hell (by firing the air traffic controllers and regulating the airlines), I'm not the only one who refuses to call Washington National Airport by its new name. And WHY were they fired, Mr. Rall? Oh - for their illegal strike, Mr. Rall? Quote His clown-like dyed hair and rouged cheeks disgusted us. We hated him during the dark days he made so hideous, and, with all due respect, we hate him still. If you'd like to experience hate, Mr. Rall, go pass out some of your cartoons about Pat Tillman around Fort Lewis. His unit has returned. I'm SURE they'd make time for you to give a speech. Quote Not everybody buys the myth that Reagan won the Cold War by demanding that Mikhail Gorbachev "tear down this [Berlin] wall" or bankrupting the Soviet Union via the arms race-- True enough - only those of us with three digit IQ's do that. Quote Zbigniew Brezinski's plot to "draw the Russians into the Afghan trap" by funding the mujahedeen, Chernobyl and covert U.S. schemes to destabilize the ruble had more to do with the end of the USSR. Ted Rall - in the know about US covert ops. I think not. Such assertions are asinine. Quote Gangsterism replaced the ossified cult of the state, millions of Russians were reduced to paupers, They were rich before the fall of the USSR? I think not. Quote revived radical Islamism in Central Asia and eliminated our sole major ideological and military rival. That's a bad thing? Ahhhh...Mr. Rall et al LIKED the Cold War...because, of course, they revere socialism. Quote That increased our arrogance and insularity, left us in charge of the world and to blame for everything, paving the road to 9/11. (Reagan even armed the attacks' future perpetrators.) Liar. Quote Anyway, the Cold War isn't over. In which direction do you think those old ICBMs point today? Please enlighten us, Mr. Rall. How many are there? Where are they? How are they maintained? ROFLMFAO. Quote The lionizers are correct about one thing: Reagan was one of our most influential presidents since FDR, whose New Deal safety net he carefully disassembled. Disassembled? I think not, Mr. Rall. Had he reformed SS he would have been a far GREATER president than he already was/is. Quote He pioneered policies now being implemented by George W. Bush: trickle down economics, corporate deregulation, radicalizing the courts, slithering around inconvenient laws and international treaties. We'll leave radicalizing the courts to the left, Mr. Rall, as they have shown their proclivity to do. Like your hero FDR and Judge Hugo Black, for instance. Quote On the domestic front, he unraveled America's century-old social contract. What the poor needed was a kick in the ass, not a handout, said a president whose wealthy patrons bought him a house and put clothes on his wife Nancy. Notice Mr. Rall's use of post-'88 gifts to deflect Reagan's oh so true words. Disgusting, Mr. Rall. Then again - so are you. Quote National parks were to be exploited for timber and oil, not protected. Which ones, Mr. Rall? What instance? Quote The federal tax code, originally conceived to redistribute wealth from top to bottom, was "reformed" to eradicate social justice. Wealth redistribution - the left considers this their mandate. Two words for those who agree with Mr. Rall - fuck you. You want money - get off of your ass and earn it. You want to come and take mine after I earn it? Over my dead body. Social justice my ass. Quote Bush also models his approach to foreign policy on that of the original Teflon President. Reagan elevated unjustifiable military action to an art. In 1983, anxious to look tough after cutting and running from Lebanon, Reagan sent marines to topple the Marxist government of Grenada. His pretext for invading this Caribbean island was the urgent plight of 500 medical students supposedly besieged by rampaging mobs. But when they arrived at the airport in the United States, the quizzical young men and women told reporters they were confused, never having felt endangered or seen any unrest. In a bizarre 1985 effort to free a few American hostages being held in Lebanon, Reagan authorized the sale of 107 tons of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, at the time one of our staunchest enemies, with the proceeds to be used to fund rightist death squads in Nicaragua--something Congress had expressly forbidden him to do. Evidence strongly suggests that Iran-Contra was at least his second dirty deal with Islamic Iran, the first being the October Surprise, which delayed the release of the Iranian embassy hostages until after the 1980 election was over. Ronald Reagan eventually admitted to "trading arms for hostages," yet avoided prosecution for treason and the death penalty. Blah blah blah. Delayed the release of the Iranian hostages my ass. Anyone who believes that is too stupid to be literate - or so I'd thought. Quote Reagan, like Bush 43, technically served in the military yet studiously avoided combat. Both men were physically robust, intellectually inadequate, poorly traveled former governors renowned for stabbing friends on the back--Reagan when he named names during McCarthyism. Liar. Quote Both appointed former generals as secretaries of state So what? Quote and enemies of the environment to head the Department of the Interior. Liar. Quote Both refused to read detailed briefings, worked short hours, behaved erratically in public appearances, ducked questions about sordid pasts, and relied on Christianist (the radical right equivalent of Islamist) depictions of foes as "evil" and America, invariably as embodied by himself and the Republicans, as "good." Liar and bigot. Quote Based on intelligence as phony as that floated to justify the war against Iraq, Reagan bombed Muslim Libya. Liar. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardigrasbob 0 #10 June 9, 2004 The average cost of a year's tuition, room and board, and fees at a private college last year was $22,541 (source: the College Board). $22,541 times 4= $90,164 QuoteYou've got over 3000 jumps and have been in the sport for 11 years, and yet you're going to school? 3000 jumps times $20.00= $60,000 Rigs needed for 3000 jumps= 3 min. times Average price of rig: $5000 = $15,000 Repacks requires for 11 years=33 33 times $40.00=$1320.00 Jumpsuits, altimeters, helmets etc.=$2,000 Travel, hotels, etc.= $10,000 College is way overpriced! - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 June 9, 2004 Oh, so that was authored by the same piece of shit who creating the disgusting 'cartoon' demeaning Tillman. Figures. http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2004/05/03/witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #12 June 9, 2004 not now. Reagan's legacy can be debated later, when emotions aren't quite so high. Regardless of what he did in office, he was our country's leader. Let people mourn for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #13 June 9, 2004 Anvil, et al...I do not agree with Mr. Rall. I read the article--I have my opinions on it, but I was looking for the opinions of others....So please don't crucify me...I just posted it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 June 9, 2004 My comments were directed at ass-clown Rall, dude, not you. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardigrasbob 0 #15 June 9, 2004 Quotenot now. Reagan's legacy can be debated later, when emotions aren't quite so high. Regardless of what he did in office, he was our country's leader. Let people mourn for now. Twenty-one gun salutes allways bring tears to my eyes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #16 June 9, 2004 Ted Rall is a loathsome piece of shit (along with Michael Moore)and lucky for him and Moore that they can spout off any kind of inane nonsensical slanderous bullshit and have their "view" protected by the first amendment......I wonder how they would fare with the mujahideen or the taliban that they are so fond of taking sides withMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #17 June 9, 2004 Good article. I strongly agree with most of it. In this period of revisionist history I think such an article is courageous. During his presidency, Reagan was controversial with an average approval rating was 55%. Today, it is 72%. He is given credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union, but his renewed arms race and reckless rhetoric could have just as likely lead to WW III. I didn’t think it was possible to have a bigger simpleton in office, however, G Dub proved me wrong. These presidents are/were simply “empty vessels” for others in the Republican Party to manipulate. But I don’t blame Reagan or GWB I fault the average American who values flash over substance. For the record, I supported McCain in 2000, so bite me you righteous a-holes. Philip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 June 9, 2004 Quote I'll agree on the "no class". This could have waited. I disagree on the other. Which SPECIFIC statements do you dispute? It's not so much about the specifics, although many of them are from a given frame of reference. It's just that the writer felt compelled to cram every criticism he had of Reagan into a single column and that makes the article seem a bit hysterical. Most of the rants were anti Republican ones. Any GOP president would have done the same. Saying Reagan could have changed the AIDS pandemic is wishful at best. In spite of all that has been done since then, we have rising rates again in the US, and Africa is a disaster where some leaders still refuse to acknowledge the crisis. If I felt the need to write a slam piece, I'd focus on the terrible deficits, the foreign policy done outside of Congress (Contras, Iran), and Star Wars, the one element of his peace through strength foreign policy that threatened to destabilize world relations. He had two terms that were mostly positive with a few glaring bits, just as you might say about Clinton. Does seem like we should have a 10 year waiting period before we rush to relabel currency. If we still feel strongly about it then...talk it over some more then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #19 June 10, 2004 Wow, I hope that Mr. Asshole feels better. He really seems to hold quite a grudge against President Reagan I was in my late 20's, a student at Portland Comm. College working on obtaining the required training to get my A&P (aircraft mechanic) license when the funding was cut for education. There I was, full time student, father of a baby girl with another child on the way and working almost full time at a gas station to supplement my VA and PELL grant income. Imagine my shock and horror when I received the letter informing me that I would have to do work/study to continue receiving my grant money. Reagan actually expected me to work for that?!? Needless to say, I then knew how evil and thoughtless them republicans were! I voted straight democrat from that day on (sorta). Finally, in 92, my candidate won! Bill Clinton will fix all them wrongs!!! President Clinton really opened my eyes! Been voting mostly republican since 96! Yep, Clinton really did open my eyes To make a (too) long story short, back then I thought that Reagan was about the worse asshole that ever came down the pike. Turns out he was one of the finest presidents this country ever produced. He had his problem areas as does our current president, but don't all of them? I don't know of any president in my lifetime that hasn't been through a controversy or two during their administrations. Rest in peace Mr. President. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 June 10, 2004 QuoteYou've got over 3000 jumps and have been in the sport for 11 years, and yet you're going to school? I started jumping at 20....Jumped alot. Now its time to focus on other things. I have a good job...But it could be better."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #21 June 10, 2004 Quote hindsight is bliss. Quote Ignorance of quotations has 20/20 vision? Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #22 June 10, 2004 Yep, today I remembered Reagan's legacy when I put ketchup on my hamburger. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,102 #23 June 10, 2004 QuoteYep, today I remembered Reagan's legacy when I put ketchup on my hamburger. Yes, it's important to eat vegetables.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #24 June 10, 2004 QuoteI'm not saying if I agree with this, just wanted to see what comments it would get... http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20040608 . I LOVE Ted Rall. He's one of the most insightful commentators out there. He's just as hard on the faliure of the left to come up with a strong opposition. I agree with him toally. Us leftists hated Reagan then, and we still hate him now. YMMV. If you want to weep tears over him. go right ahead. No skin off my nose. Quite frankly, I'm still surprised anyone cares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #25 June 10, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'm not saying if I agree with this, just wanted to see what comments it would get... http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20040608 . I LOVE Ted Rall. He's one of the most insightful commentators out there. He's just as hard on the faliure of the left to come up with a strong opposition. I agree with him toally. Us leftists hated Reagan then, and we still hate him now. YMMV. If you want to weep tears over him. go right ahead. No skin off my nose. Quite frankly, I'm still surprised anyone cares. Wow! You are one heartless hatefilled person. I feel really sorry for you. Such intolerance from a democrat. JBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
SpeedRacer 1 #22 June 10, 2004 Yep, today I remembered Reagan's legacy when I put ketchup on my hamburger. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,102 #23 June 10, 2004 QuoteYep, today I remembered Reagan's legacy when I put ketchup on my hamburger. Yes, it's important to eat vegetables.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #24 June 10, 2004 QuoteI'm not saying if I agree with this, just wanted to see what comments it would get... http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20040608 . I LOVE Ted Rall. He's one of the most insightful commentators out there. He's just as hard on the faliure of the left to come up with a strong opposition. I agree with him toally. Us leftists hated Reagan then, and we still hate him now. YMMV. If you want to weep tears over him. go right ahead. No skin off my nose. Quite frankly, I'm still surprised anyone cares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #25 June 10, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'm not saying if I agree with this, just wanted to see what comments it would get... http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20040608 . I LOVE Ted Rall. He's one of the most insightful commentators out there. He's just as hard on the faliure of the left to come up with a strong opposition. I agree with him toally. Us leftists hated Reagan then, and we still hate him now. YMMV. If you want to weep tears over him. go right ahead. No skin off my nose. Quite frankly, I'm still surprised anyone cares. Wow! You are one heartless hatefilled person. I feel really sorry for you. Such intolerance from a democrat. JBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
