turtlespeed 221 #26 July 1, 2004 Good logic, Quade - Perhaps the left leaning posters here could listen to that when they are absorbing the propoganda about Bush.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #27 July 1, 2004 Hilary Clinton will not, I repeat, not run as VP for Kerry. She will bite her lip and run against Bush in four years. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #28 July 1, 2004 Hey Kev, get your facts straight. Anastasio Somoza Debayle was in effect dead (1980) by the time the contra's case was an issue. You seem to have an issue with getting facts right. Please change channels....or get them by other sources. Somoza's regime was capable of comitting many attrocities without the need to import the assasins from 3000 miles down south east (in Argentina). The contra's aid was an effort to overthrow a communist threat from Nicaragua. Violeta Chamorro was supported by the Contras, and she became the first president elected in Nicaragua in 1989. If you are going to spur misguided information on what the contra's were about, I would suggest you to learn at least sufficiently about Nicaragua in order to be able to make an educated guess about it."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #29 July 1, 2004 QuoteHillary would be branded a liar by some Republicans no matter what she did simply because she is a Democrat. Hillary couldn't be a liar because of her poor memory. During the Whitewater investigations she had "no clear recollection" of a lot of events. Of course, I guess that's why her memoirs were such a short volume. Good thing she didn't get paid more than a couple of million bucks for such a small book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #30 July 1, 2004 QuoteAnastasio Somoza Debayle was in effect dead (1980) by the time the contra's case was an issue. That's why I said Somoza regime, which it was commonly known as, even after he was killed. QuoteSomoza's regime was capable of comitting many attrocities without the need to import the assasins from 3000 miles down south east (in Argentina). I was using Argentinian in "Argentinian Death Squads" as a descrtiptor. That's what his goon squads were modeled after. Didn't mean to imply he imported people from Argentina. QuoteThe contra's aid was an effort to overthrow a communist threat from Nicaragua. Violeta Chamorro was supported by the Contras, and she became the first president elected in Nicaragua in 1989. Oh, you mean the ruling civilian junta while the Sandanistas were in power, then changed sides to the Contras, then when elected packed her cabinet with Sandanistas? Good thing we illegally aided that effort to get rid of the communists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 July 1, 2004 If your spouse cheated on you constantly and you had to stay together for both your careers, you'd likely lose a ton of short and long term memory also. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #32 July 1, 2004 Really hate to proove something you are not even aware off, but if you are talking about history,get your facts straight. She was asked to be part of the Junta, due to the position she had with the actual overthrow of Somoza's regime. She resigned a year later, for differences in thoughts. The sandinistas wanted a marxist regime, she did not. She wanted a democracy and peace. Implying the Contra's was to re-establish Somoza to power, was not only inaccurate, wrong and devoid of reality,it is the point I am trying to make. Can help you get the facts straight. And by the way you forgot to mention that the house of representatives was already investigating the human rights issues, remember that carter was prez at the time?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #33 July 1, 2004 ok, I concede, you probably know more of the details of this than I do. I was 8 after all. Back to the original point, what does it have to do with Hillary Clinton? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #34 July 1, 2004 Well, I have nothing to say about her. The only thing is that if you are going to use facts and history get them as straight as you can.That's all."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #35 July 1, 2004 QuoteIf your spouse cheated on you constantly and you had to stay together for both your careers, you'd likely lose a ton of short and long term memory also. Thank God it was only a temporary thing during her hearings in front of the other lawyers, politicians, and assorted swine. At least she was able to keep her mind intact enough to make millions on the book. She's suffered enough already... poor, poor dear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #36 July 1, 2004 QuoteIf Hillary decided to run "Under" sKerry in this election? And break her publicly stated promise to serve her full six year term as Senator for New York? Even if she did, we all know how such "brands" roll off the Clintons like water off a duck's back. Actually, judging by the reception she received from the NYFD at that 9/11 concert, I say, go ahead and run. She'll be a lead weight on Kerry which he won't be able to remove. Fine with me.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #37 July 1, 2004 QuoteHilary Clinton will not, I repeat, not run as VP for Kerry. She will bite her lip and run against Bush in four years. While I agree with you, it doesn't make sense, as Bush won't be able to run in '08. If Cheney stays on the ticket this time around, I am going to guess that he won't serve the full second term as VP. If that happens, Colin Powell will be the next VP. While he has stated that he has no desire to run for President, I would hope that he would do so in '08.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #38 July 1, 2004 PhillyKev is incapable of presenting facts straight in many areas because they do not align with the fantasy paradigm he views as reality. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #39 July 1, 2004 It is a common issue, spin the details to make your point"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #40 July 1, 2004 QuoteQuoteHillary would be branded a liar by some Republicans no matter what she did simply because she is a Democrat. Hillary couldn't be a liar because of her poor memory. During the Whitewater investigations she had "no clear recollection" of a lot of events. Of course, I guess that's why her memoirs were such a short volume. Good thing she didn't get paid more than a couple of million bucks for such a small book. Not as short as Reagan's when he testified on Iran-Contra. That was before he was diagnosed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #41 July 1, 2004 QuoteQuoteHilary Clinton will not, I repeat, not run as VP for Kerry. She will bite her lip and run against Bush in four years. While I agree with you, it doesn't make sense, as Bush won't be able to run in '08. reply] JEB Bush!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #42 July 1, 2004 QuoteHillary who? "It means 'she whose breasts defy gravity'"... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #43 July 2, 2004 QuoteLast interview I could stomache listening to she said she would not run for any whitehouse office - making it understood that she would not be seeking the VP or Pres position. That would stop her, you figure? Having promised not to do something? She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. If she got elected VP because enough people didn't mind the fact that she reneged on a promise not to run, do you think that would keep her up at night? She's a sociopathic power-monger. I really doubt she'd feel remorse for having lied. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,031 #44 July 2, 2004 >She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. . . .She's a sociopathic power-monger. So you are suggesting she'd make a better president than vice president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #45 July 2, 2004 QuoteHilary Clinton will not, I repeat, not run as VP for Kerry. She will bite her lip and run against Bush in four years. I agree...She doesn't want to make do with second prize, she wants the whole enchilada... Quote>She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. . . .She's a sociopathic power-monger. So you are suggesting she'd make a better president than vice president? ...I was thinking more along the lines of POS, like her husband...but unrepentant liar will do...... ~R+R...The whole Clinton clan belongs behind bars for one reason or another...or in a trailer park...whichever comes first...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #46 July 2, 2004 QuoteAnd Noriega went to School of the Americas. Somoza embezzled the financial aid sent to them after a major earthquake. Commited attrocities against his own citizens. Was sanctioned by the United Nations security council. Then was ousted. THEN we tried to reinstate him. Oooooh! "Santioned by the United Nations security council"! That's like being told by a cafeteria lunch aide to stop running in the halls, but the consequences aren't as dire. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #47 July 2, 2004 Quote>She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. . . .She's a sociopathic power-monger. So you are suggesting she'd make a better president than vice president? No, just that she wants to BE president more than vice president. She wouldn't make a good restroom attendant. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Layton 0 #48 July 2, 2004 i thought it was hillary ho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Guest #42 July 1, 2004 QuoteHillary who? "It means 'she whose breasts defy gravity'"... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #43 July 2, 2004 QuoteLast interview I could stomache listening to she said she would not run for any whitehouse office - making it understood that she would not be seeking the VP or Pres position. That would stop her, you figure? Having promised not to do something? She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. If she got elected VP because enough people didn't mind the fact that she reneged on a promise not to run, do you think that would keep her up at night? She's a sociopathic power-monger. I really doubt she'd feel remorse for having lied. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,031 #44 July 2, 2004 >She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. . . .She's a sociopathic power-monger. So you are suggesting she'd make a better president than vice president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #45 July 2, 2004 QuoteHilary Clinton will not, I repeat, not run as VP for Kerry. She will bite her lip and run against Bush in four years. I agree...She doesn't want to make do with second prize, she wants the whole enchilada... Quote>She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. . . .She's a sociopathic power-monger. So you are suggesting she'd make a better president than vice president? ...I was thinking more along the lines of POS, like her husband...but unrepentant liar will do...... ~R+R...The whole Clinton clan belongs behind bars for one reason or another...or in a trailer park...whichever comes first...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #46 July 2, 2004 QuoteAnd Noriega went to School of the Americas. Somoza embezzled the financial aid sent to them after a major earthquake. Commited attrocities against his own citizens. Was sanctioned by the United Nations security council. Then was ousted. THEN we tried to reinstate him. Oooooh! "Santioned by the United Nations security council"! That's like being told by a cafeteria lunch aide to stop running in the halls, but the consequences aren't as dire. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #47 July 2, 2004 Quote>She is a power-mad, unrepentant liar. . . .She's a sociopathic power-monger. So you are suggesting she'd make a better president than vice president? No, just that she wants to BE president more than vice president. She wouldn't make a good restroom attendant. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Layton 0 #48 July 2, 2004 i thought it was hillary ho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
