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oy vey



funny, that was what i was thinking...
i'd be very sad if that would be the only argument i have.

but even if you go with the "who was here first" concept, we still win, even without the help of big G up there ;)

O



Yeah...but we can't support that position....the whole native American genocide and all...

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WOW!!!, You have gone off the deep end here. What kind of Spaniard are you? The only explanation would be if you were really a Gitano, meaning meaning a Muslim from Morroco. I will say that you made one or two good points about the validity of using the bible in an arguement and then citing Leviticus which is pretty radical and all. But your ranting between "Just for the record" & "multiply wine" displayed your total lack of knowledge on the subject matter. Referring to bible as "a piece of bull shit" is unnecessarilly, extremely offensive to all the Christian and Jewish people of the world. I don't even think you should even use those words for the Koran and that is a recipe for terrorism. By the way Israel is mentioned in the bible, Palestine is not. Jesus is factually a historical figure. The year is 2004. What do you think that means? Do you think its an arbitrary number? It freaks me out to think that anyone from the civilized world would question the existance of Jesus.
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I don't even think you should even use those words for the Koran and that is a recipe for terrorism.



What makes you think that?


Oh I don't know. Maybe its just that everywhere they read it somehow Terrorism is happening.
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I don't even think you should even use those words for the Koran and that is a recipe for terrorism.



What makes you think that?


Oh I don't know. Maybe its just that everywhere they read it somehow Terrorism is happening.



That's because religious texts of all kinds are open to interpretation, that's why they endure. The Koran is no more a text book for terrorism than the Bible is a text book to crusading.

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"Do on to others, as you want done to you."

As opposed to
Do unto others, before they do it to you......:);)
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WOW!!!, You have gone off the deep end here. What kind of Spaniard are you?


What so you mean? Are Spaniards suppose to be die hard catholics?

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The only explanation would be if you were really a Gitano, meaning meaning a Muslim from Morroco


Gitanos and Muslims from Morocco have NOTHING in Common, Gitanos came originally from Romania although some of them have been living is spain for many, many years. They are very religious but don´t adhere to a particular religion. Morocco is in North Africa, and they are Muslims. Please, inform yourself. And no, i am not a Gitano or Muslim.

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I will say that you made one or two good points about the validity of using the bible in an arguement and then citing Leviticus which is pretty radical and all. But your ranting between "Just for the record" & "multiply wine" displayed your total lack of knowledge on the subject matter.


So are you telling me that one of the tales told about Jesus was not about the multiplication of bread and wine?

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Referring to bible as "a piece of bull shit" is unnecessarilly, extremely offensive to all the Christian and Jewish people of the world.


I agree that maybe my words were quite harsh, but there is a misconception about those who don´t believe in God. We are seen as having no religion, and that is not true. My religion is that i don´t believe in God.
When someone says that their religion is the right one, i take it as an attack to my freedom to choose religion. If your are christian, you wouldn´t say a muslim that they are fucking wrong, but it seems it is okay to say to an atheist that he has not been enlightened by God, and therefore he is wrong.


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I don't even think you should even use those words for the Koran and that is a recipe for terrorism.


Bible is a recipe for terrorism.
Torah is a recipe for terrorism.
Koran is a recipe for terrorism.
Please, could you tell me why you think Koran is a recipe for terrorism but the bible and the Torah are not?

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By the way Israel is mentioned in the bible, Palestine is not. Jesus is factually a historical figure. The year is 2004. What do you think that means? Do you think its an arbitrary number? It freaks me out to think that anyone from the civilized world would question the existance of Jesus.


Jesus is NOT a factual figure. We have mummies from Egipt that where buried with their names engraved in the tomb and we cannot even be 100% the bodies where not changed allong the way. Without mentioning the Bible, what proof do you have that Jesus existed?

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i think i'll be taking a vacation from this thread ;)

religious is not stupid if it gives you what you need.
as long as people need something to believe in, it will be there.

i see it as a basic human need that is taken advantage of in order to control people.

is there a god? if you want, there is, for you.

O
"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

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If you do previous searchs on Steels posts you'll find he strong believes in bloodlines and keeping them "pure". He is very proud of the fact that his spanish bloodline is free from Moorish influence and that he has no muslim blood in him. He has made his dislike of the entire muslim religion/"race" clear in the past.

Citing the Koran as a recipe for terrorism is very off base. Read through it and you will see that it shows tolerance and acceptance more so then some other religious books.
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Are you aware that if he even existed it was the jews and not the muslims who killed him?



errr, dont you mean romans?
islam was invented 600 years later ;)
i guess there was a jesus, i doubt what you read in the bible is his true life story.
anyway,
jews saw him as a false prophet but crucifiction was a roamn punishment to whoever was causeing problems (and thats the only "fact" i have for you)

O
"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

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errr, dont you mean romans?


Well, technically yes. But, you will have to admit that you guys didn´t like him much. :P

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islam was invented 600 years later ;)


I like the word invented when talking about religions, but I reckon we are going to hurt some feelings if we said it loud. :)

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i guess there was a jesus, i doubt what you read in the bible is his true life story.
anyway,
jews saw him as a false prophet but crucifiction was a roamn punishment to whoever was causeing problems (and thats the only "fact" i have for you)


Yeah, when i said Jesus before i was referring more to the biblical figure that the real person. after all, Jesus was supposed to be quite a common name back then, and Nazareth was just the village he was born. So it is quite possible that at some point there was a big mouthed Jesus in Nazareth who got in trouble with the Romans.

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I like the word invented



well it was invented.
i didnt say who or by what force was it...


i've expressed my vies on religion many times but they are my own.
if someone believes in god and that gives him faith , i support that. faith is important.

my problem is when people use religion as a tool to get things for themselves in the name of god. (make it donation, political power or suicide bombers) .
"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

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Like the others who posted just before you, you too, are wrong.

Palestina (Palestine) is mentioned 4 times in God's WORD.

The entire Bible is not the story of the life of Jesus, . The New Testament IS, and there are several mentiones and a description of Jesus given in the Old Testament, which were written 712 years before Jesus was born.

He will be coming back to earth in the near future, so you will see Him for yourselves.

Your ridiculaous postings here, only prove that there are so many,who know very little about very much.

Bill Cole




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