Guest #26 July 16, 2004 QuoteWho? WTF are you talking about? Vietnam. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #27 July 16, 2004 QuoteMost of the people I know with "support the troops" stickers limit their support to displaying the sticker. My son is in the Army and he hasn't reported any influx of "support". And why isn't that suport? You guys want to beat up on someone for putting a sticker on their ride? Even if it just generated a moment of thought for those doing a tough job, it's good support in my book. Amazing the mindset of some people. A person does nothing and they get left alone. A person makes a token effort, generates a moment of thought, or respect, and suddenly they are not doing enough, or their reasons are hauled into question?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #28 July 16, 2004 QuoteYou guys want to beat up on someone Please show me where I beat up on anyone. I stated that I thought most people couldn't explain what they were doing other than displaying a poster. It would be great if those stickers said "Please Support" or "Think About" or "Send Money to Help" Our Troops. But they don't. They say "I Support". Why?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #29 July 16, 2004 I support our troops when I stand agents the war. I don't want them to die for an unjust cause, but I think people would rather have yellow ribbons and call people like me cowards. I think the people like me are doing more for them then the ones who blindly follow. Our troops once they are given an order they will follow even if it means leaving the ones they love maybe to never see them again. It is our duty to question and ask why so there not risking their life for an unjust cause. I will also never disrespect a soldier who has fought with honor. I will question the government who has put them in harms way and why, but not the soldiers. I also pray that people don't die.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #30 July 16, 2004 Plain and simple, those types of stickers make people think for a minute when they see them. Supporting our troops can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. We turn on the tv and see the news every night and do you really see much on the war. Not really if you think about it. They may talk briefly and I mean breifly about what happend that day and then they go straight to what Britteny Spears did today, or how fat is J-lo's ass getting. It is ridiculous. As an ex soldier (I guess I will always be one at heart), I loved seeing those stickers wehn I got home from the 1st Gulf War. To me it let me know that some folks had at lease thought about us while we where over there. To me it shows that people have learned since the Vietnam war that soldiers are people. The way that soldiers where treated during that war was just wrong. So to see the little stickers on cars is great. Supporting our troops can be as little as a sticker or (In may case), when a soldier buys something from us here at SQ1, I spend a little time to talk to them and let them know that we appreciate what they are going through. You would be surprised how many orders I get from guys and girls serving over in Iraq or Afghanistan. They all say the same thing. Don't forget us over here. I am disgusted at how many skydivers don't care or don't know what is going on over there. As skydivers we should also think about these guys as our family, because so many of them are jumpers too.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #31 July 16, 2004 Since my baby brother falls into the "troop" category I send him stuff that makes his life easier......he spent a year in Afghanistan as a corpsman in the Navy.......He wanted some "shooting" mittens from Cabela's,some oak dowels so he could make tourniquet "windlasses"....dried fruit.....freeze dried food.....stuff for the kids over there..... whatever he requested.I also made sure his teen daughter in cali is doing ok too....shortly he will deploy back to the middle east so I will "support" him in some manner or fashion......if some people want to go the ribbon or bumper sticker route let them......if they want to participate further then great.....if anyone here wants to mail stuff overseas to our troops get addresses from friends or neighbors....chances are they are related to or know someone who is serving....bottom line is..... "something is better than nothing"Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #32 July 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteMost of the people I know with "support the troops" stickers limit their support to displaying the sticker. My son is in the Army and he hasn't reported any influx of "support". And why isn't that suport? You guys want to beat up on someone for putting a sticker on their ride? Even if it just generated a moment of thought for those doing a tough job, it's good support in my book. Amazing the mindset of some people. A person does nothing and they get left alone. A person makes a token effort, generates a moment of thought, or respect, and suddenly they are not doing enough, or their reasons are hauled into question? If proclaiming "support our troops" IS supporting them, then saying "make a skydive" is the same as making a skydive. Curious. According to your logic, it is.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #33 July 16, 2004 QuoteIf proclaiming "support our troops" IS supporting them, then saying "make a skydive" is the same as making a skydive. Curious. It is not the same, but by saying "Hey go make a skydive" it is supporting skydiving, because you are telling some one to do it. Putting a sticker on your car is better then doing nothing at all. It generates thought.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #34 July 16, 2004 I'm amazed that this draws so much argument and discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #35 July 16, 2004 QuoteIf proclaiming "support our troops" IS supporting them, then saying "make a skydive" is the same as making a skydive. Curious. According to your logic, it is. No, according to your highly flawed logic it is. Don't put words in my mouth. Saying "make a skydive" could be inerpreted as suporting skydiving. I don't think you've defined "suport for the troops". Some people send care packages, some write letter, some just have them in their thoughts. Should woment that stand on the corner of Missison Trail and Railroad Canyon every Saturday with the "Honk if you suport our troops" be doing more? Or are they not actualy suporting the troops? What about the people that honk? You're trolling.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #36 July 16, 2004 QuoteIf proclaiming "support our troops" IS supporting them, then saying "make a skydive" is the same as making a skydive. No, it's supporting making a skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #37 July 16, 2004 QuoteShould woment that stang on the corner of Missison Trail and Railroad canyon every Saturday with the "Honk if you suport our troops" be doing more? Or are they not actualy suporting the troops? What about the people that honk? They are expressing appeciation. That's great. I wouldn't think twice about a sticker that said "I Admire our Troops". or "Thanks for the hard work" or "Welcome Home" or "Good Job" I still don't think that proclaiming to support something is supporting it. Appreciation is not the same as support.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #38 July 16, 2004 QuoteI still don't think that proclaiming to support something is supporting it. Appreciation is not the same as support. I absolutely think that proclaiming your support is support. A little moral support can go a long way. Peace~ lindsey-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #39 July 16, 2004 QuoteI absolutely think that proclaiming your support is support. A little moral support can go a long way. I'm listening. I didn't start this as a challenge. A lot of people have made great points.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #40 July 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteWhat are you currently doing to support the troops that you claim these people aren't? I answered this question in my original post and in another. I'm trying to pull my weight and take responsibility for my actions. I'm not claiming to be doing anything that they aren't doing. I don't display anything at my house or on my car that announces my support. Are you saying that support only counts if it's monetary? I didn't say anything about what counts as support and what doesn't. I'm just trying to understand why you feel what you are doing is more than what your neighbors are doing. I'm also trying to point out to you that your neighbors may be doing more than you are aware of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites