Air-Addict 0 #1 July 20, 2004 The unity of like-minded people can be a beautiful thing. I want to organize an activist group (consisiting of skydivers) that is willing to participate in Anti-War and Anti-Bush rallies, etc. in Southern California. Respectively, I want to call this conglomeration: SAM (Skydivers Against Misinformation). August 29th @ 10:00 am there will be an Anti-Bush march and rally in Santa Barbara at Alameda Park. If you are interested in joining some of your radical skydiving brothers and sisters to put an end to social injustice, e-mail me by 8/20/04. Other information about this event can be found at www.nion-sb.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #2 July 20, 2004 Wrong Forum...Take a minute our of your ranting and read before posting..... MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 July 20, 2004 Its frustrating that you'll use my sport's name for your own agenda. That's the point of skydivers is that they don't agree on single issues like this, since they are all individuals from all walks of life. Thanks for posting in the wrong forum, btw.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #4 July 20, 2004 Leave Politics in the speaker's corner with regards to skydiving.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 July 20, 2004 Feel free to form a pro-Bush skyding group. You could call it Skydivers In Favor of Misinformation It's his sport too, and his individuality should permit him to do this if he wants. Or did you mean indivduality that you agree with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 July 20, 2004 QuoteOr did you mean indivduality that you agree with? Nice liberal spin. I'm not going to push any sort of politics using skydiving. That's the point, is that the sport is so divers who am I and who are you...who is anyone to have some sort of political activism using the good name of the sport. I wouldn't support a Pro-bush skydiver group either. Take your liberal blinders off sometime and look around you.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 July 20, 2004 AggieDave is right. Let's not tarnish our great sport of skydiving with political mumbo-jumbo. Politics suck ... the people in politics suck ... the same can not be said of most skydivers. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #8 July 20, 2004 There are christian skydiving groups, AA skydiving groups, skydiving groups for certain age groups, etc. etc. Hell, skydiving is full of cliques and politics. You don't have to join his group, and if everyone else agrees with you, there won't be a group. But what gives you the right to judge them? If that's wearing liberal blinders, I'll keep mine on, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 July 20, 2004 QuoteFeel free to form a pro-Bush skyding group. You could call it Skydivers In Favor of Misinformation. Nice! I disagree but that was a good one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #10 July 20, 2004 QuoteYou could call it Skydivers In Favor of Misinformation I thought that was the pro-Micheal Moore group. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #11 July 20, 2004 I have to say I am with Dave. I am against the war and don't like this president very much, But leave Skydiving out of it. That’s what I love about this sport its about jumping out of a perfectly good airplane lets leave it at that. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #12 July 20, 2004 And here I thought that most people hated politics/drama at the dropzone.... ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 July 20, 2004 Hell, I agree too. I wouldn't join the group. But if he wants to form it and other people want to, let them knock themselves out. I think sometime we have an over inflated view of the position of skydiving in what whuffos care about. It probably ranks just below who gives a shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 July 20, 2004 There's a difference between skydiving groups and groups of skydivers forming a polictical activist group. You know that, surely, it would be very hard for me to believe you don't seperate the two. QuoteBut what gives you the right to judge them? I'm not judging them as people, I'm not judging the political choices, I'm stating that I think it isn't a grand idea to pull our sport into it. Into *mainstream* politics. What if the thread started off with John Rich forming a Pro-Bush/Pro-Gun Rights political activist group called "Skydivers For The Truth" would you still be advocating what you are advocating? I know I would still be stating that skydiving shouldn't be inolved.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #15 July 20, 2004 QuoteHell, I agree too. I wouldn't join the group. But if he wants to form it and other people want to, let them knock themselves out. I agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #16 July 20, 2004 Troll post? Only one post and it's this one. Likely someone who doesn't care much about DZ.com at all, just this rally. Let the thread die. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #17 July 20, 2004 QuoteTroll post? Only one post and it's this one. Likely someone who doesn't care much about DZ.com at all, just this rally. Let the thread die. Roger that... Flat-line-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 July 20, 2004 QuoteWhat if the thread started off with John Rich forming a Pro-Bush/Pro-Gun Rights political activist group called "Skydivers For The Truth" would you still be advocating what you are advocating? One thing I can say about Kev - he's consistent. I don't think Kev would have a problem with that group, and I don't think Kev would have a problem with Yankee Skydivers for Neutering Southerners, eitherr. Like me, he'd disagree with the message, but wouldn't have a problem with people organizing. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #19 July 20, 2004 QuoteRoger that... Flat-line------------------- That's pretty funny! Or atleast I got a good chuckle out of it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melstarr 0 #20 July 20, 2004 QuoteIt's his sport too, and his individuality should permit him to do this if he wants. Or did you mean indivduality that you agree with?yes, his individuality allows him to do almost anything he chooses, but it's a two-way street any way you look at it (it's my sport too ). my individuality supports the leader (that You Don't support ) of my country. skydivers are a part of a small community, therefore easily confusing ALL skydivers as: Anti-bush* i understand Air Addicts movement, and think it's really cool that he wants to find other individuals with the same views as himself. but why not label it: Individuals Against Misinformation? wouldn't that have the same impact? ~ meL* Pink Mafia / Tunnel Mafia Sister Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #21 July 20, 2004 QuoteQuote One thing I can say about Kev - he's consistent. I don't think Kev would have a problem with that group, and I don't think Kev would have a problem with Yankee Skydivers for Neutering Southerners, eitherr. Like me, he'd disagree with the message, but wouldn't have a problem with people organizing. Whooo, I'm a Damn Yankee Skydiver so where would I fall in? JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 July 20, 2004 Quote don't think Kev would have a problem with Yankee Skydivers for Neutering Southerners, eitherr. Like me, he'd disagree with the message, but wouldn't have a problem with people organizing. Don't put words in my mouth. I wouldn't disagree with that message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #23 July 20, 2004 QuoteAA skydiving groups Isn't that, like, all skydivers? Maybe I'll start an offshoot of SAM for the BASE community and call it... drumroll please... BAM! - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Air-Addict 0 #24 July 20, 2004 Ok, Ok... Forgive me! I am still blown away by the fact that the only "sane" people I've met in the wretched state of California are Skydivers. I am admittedly quick to want to organize around that fact. So instead of skydivers Against Misinformation, maybe there are some People Against Misinormation, that also happen to be skydivers, that would like to be around other "People" who skydive and want to help bring about change at the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #25 July 20, 2004 Quoteskydivers are a part of a small community, therefore easily confusing ALL skydivers as: Anti-bush* I don't know...I just can't see that happening. I say if someone wants to start a "Skydivers for P.E.T.A" or "Skydivers for Aligator Wrestling" organization, they should be able to. I don't think it will affect the rest of us in the slightest. This is S.T.U.P.I.D! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites