turtlespeed 221 #51 July 20, 2004 Are you done being drunk yet?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Air-Addict 0 #52 July 20, 2004 "witholding your venom."*** I'd truly hate to see your bite. That's the problem with one-sided conservatism. It can't see the difference between plain ole' patriots and Democratic cooks. I don't think either party should be allowed to compete any more. I have never affiliated my self with either of those two parties or any other party for that matter. Every side of the cubic political system is corrupt and in need of reform. Don't be so sensitive because you are contributing to the exact same close-mindedness that I would like to see removed from the governing bodies of the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #53 July 20, 2004 That's twice you've poked your green head in here recently. Don't you have some tshirts to fold? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #54 July 20, 2004 QuoteAre you done being drunk yet? Ya think I'd be posting in here sober? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #55 July 20, 2004 QuoteThere are only 2? Who'd have thought? Bah, you know what I mean . . . The majority of strife is between the big 2, neither of which am I interested in belonging to anymore. I'm very middle-of-the-road, so who knows . . . Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #56 July 20, 2004 Confuscious say, Those that are in middle of road - get run over!" I think anyone that is on the fence so to speak should vote for NIETHER candidate. I really do! I think that it would help the world immensely if they did.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #57 July 20, 2004 Is that why the republican party is assisting Nader in getting on state ballots? Altruism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #58 July 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteMaybe it's just scorn and irritation at someone who thought it would be a great idea to fragment skydivers along political lines You mean kinda like this forum? This forum lets us air our views and discuss them. It is very different from making a decision put a very specific set of ideals out there as "this is what Skydivers believe." So far, I have not heard of any major coalition of skydivers attempting to put skydivers as a group out there in the political arena -- and I feel that's a good thing. There are plenty of anti-Bush groups out there already, so there's no shortage of people to join if you want to align against him. What need is there to claim Skydivers (as though they're all of one mind) are, as a group, against him? Must one really tack on "I'm a skydiver" to his personal statement of opposition to Bush? Seems a bit ostentatious, to me. But this forum is very different from going out to the public as "Skydivers" who oppose Bush. And using the name "Skydivers Against Misinformation" implies that Misinformation and Bush are synonymous, to the exclusion of the idea that any misinformation ever comes from Kerry and the Democrats. That name also exposes the outright bias and lack of objectivity of the people who would unite under it. It's as disingenuous a name as "Americans for Gun Safety" is for a group of non-thinkers who simply want to ban guns. (I guess their premise is "of course a gun is safe if it doesn't exist.") --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #59 July 20, 2004 How about if we get two people with good character who can count to five and pronounce two-syllable words to run? Maybe then we could have a real election based on issues. But seeing as how neither candidate qualifies, I don't see that we have much of a choice, voting Republican or Democrat. It's like a choice between Dumb and Dumber. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #60 July 20, 2004 Quote"witholding your venom."*** I'd truly hate to see your bite. That's the problem with one-sided conservatism. It can't see the difference between plain ole' patriots and Democratic cooks. I don't think either party should be allowed to compete any more. I have never affiliated my self with either of those two parties or any other party for that matter. Every side of the cubic political system is corrupt and in need of reform. Don't be so sensitive because you are contributing to the exact same close-mindedness that I would like to see removed from the governing bodies of the world. That was not venomous -- or you just don't know venom. I used no major expletives, made no insults -- I just stated my reasoning. You don't like it? I'm contributing to closed-mindedness? Was it I who suggested forming a club that implies "misinformation" is the exclusive domain of George W. Bush and the Republicans?! THAT is CLOSED-MINDED. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #61 July 20, 2004 QuoteHow about if we get two people with good character No such thing in the political arena Quotewho can count to five and pronounce two-syllable words to run? Maybe then we could have a real election based on issues. A fairytale again - personal agendas are what all politicians are about. Quote But seeing as how neither candidate qualifies, I don't see that we have much of a choice, voting Republican or Democrat. It's like a choice between Dumb and Dumber. Kelly That may be true - but at least one will stick to what he believes and actually has convictions that he will stand up for.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #62 July 20, 2004 1 in 100 maybe. And I don't think any of those guys are running for POTUS right now. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #63 July 20, 2004 Quote1 in 100 maybe. And I don't think any of those guys are running for POTUS right now. Kelly Actually - he's not running - he IS Potus - he is just trying to stay there.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #64 July 20, 2004 QuoteI'm still waiting for you to answer PhreeZone's question. I'm not crazy about it; I'm not crazy about christianity; I'm not crazy about skydivers getting together to be "hyphenated-skydivers" at all. Why can't we just be skydivers when we're skydiving? And outside of that, if you're going to be for or against a given candidate, why is there a need to be noting that you're also a skydiver? Christian Skydiving Association... I didn't know there was one -- if there is one. I do think that it's a very different thing from "Skydivers Against Bush" or whatever they wanted to call that abomination, because it's more likely to be just a bunch of people who feel an additional closeness through being both Christians and Skydivers -- NOT like they're going to go give some other group what-for! --- That's a big difference! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #65 July 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt seemed to me to reflect much of what I see modern Democrats standing for these days: divisiveness, rancor, and spite. And this is a Democrat trait? Anyone else see the irony in this post? Democrats are PEOPLE, just like Republicans, and some of each are going to be divisive (ahem) and spiteful. It is NOT a characteristic of Democrats alone. Geez, people. Stop overgenralizing, especially in favor of your own fucked up party. And by that, I mean BOTH PARTIES. Kelly Apply the statement to the leadership of the dem party and many of the dems in congress. I think it is a common way of speaking of the elected representatives in this way (the dems or repubs are ...)People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #66 July 21, 2004 Quote ...maybe there are some People Against Misinormation... I think you're misinormed a little bit, too."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #67 July 21, 2004 >Yes it is. The wuffo population already thinks we are all crazy, so how > do you think they will precieve a group that portrays itself as anti- >Bush? As just a little more mainstream. Approval ratings currently below 50%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #68 July 21, 2004 QuoteTroll Post???? Doesn't Care About DZ.Com???? Tell me... what do you hold so dear about your beloved DZ.Com that you are quick to persecute those who mention things on it that do not directly reflect your own opinions? You are a great spokesperson for such a free-willed forum. Be objective - it was your only post at the time (number of posts: 1) and it was escalatory in a rather peculiar way to support a particular event. Much like retailers coming on site and posting once about selling their stuff. That was the basis for "Troll". Not my particular politics which I doubt you have any idea on. Edit: "persecution"? You really need to get out a bit. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #69 July 21, 2004 QuoteQuote ...maybe there are some People Against Misinormation... I think you're misinormed a little bit, too. Careful with the persecution there Doug. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burbleflyer 0 #70 July 22, 2004 I have some information for you: BITE ME! Take your cause elsewhere or form your own group. We are individuals here with a common interest, not a common cause. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
