Kerry the great white hunter

[rehmwa 2]

So he's in Wisconsin campaigning and was asked what kind of hunting he preferred. "I'd have to say deer," said the senator. "I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach... That's hunting."

Methinks he's not completely genuine here and playing to the rabble.

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[Kennedy 0]

While I don't take to being called rabble, I do agree he is full of it and pandering for the votes of uninformed.

Maybe someone should tell him that very few deer hunters ever "crawl around on (their) bellies."

I'd have believed him if he said upland birds. That has always had a tradition of money and social standing.

I have to laugh at the idiots in this picture though (behind Kerry, not him this time). I wonder if they know he advocated and voted for banning the shotguns they are holding (semi-automatic).

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[rehmwa 2]

1 - what picture?
2 - I'm assuming Kerry considers most people rabble (just assuming)
3 - who hunts deer with a double barrel shotgun?

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[turtlespeed 226]

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I have to laugh at the idiots in this picture though (behind Kerry, not him this time). I wonder if they know he advocated and voted for banning the shotguns they are holding (semi-automatic).

Irony at it's best.

Maybe someone should tell him.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[Kennedy 0]

(1) Picture added.

(2) From his point of view, I imagine yout statement is correct. I'm sure he'd hate me. I don't even like scones.

(3) No one I know. Really, who hunts deer on all fours? Tree stands, still hunting, and stalking, but crawling on your belly? Yeah, he knows all about hunting. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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[markd_nscr986 0]

***Yeah, he knows all about hunting. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight


Honest.......he does know about hunting.......er umm hunting wealthy widows anyway

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[turtlespeed 226]

1) Caption for picture: (Elmer Fudd Voice)I got 'im - MA, Look I got 'im! Waskel Wabbit - Huh huh huh huhuhuuh(/elmer fudd voice)

2) WTF is a scone?

3) Isn't THAT a semi auto he's holding? Isn't that what he was voting to ban? Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite if you did that?

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[Kennedy 0]

(1) Yep.

(2) OK, I don't like biscottis or crumpets, either.

(3) No, he's holding a double barrel shotgun (over/under, as opposed to side by side).

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[turtlespeed 226]

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(1) Yep.

(2) OK, I don't like biscottis or crumpets, either.

(3) No, he's holding a double barrel shotgun (over/under, as opposed to side by side).

Sorry didn'r bring my glasses -
Looked a little like a remington 1600

Anyway - I retract my statement about Elmer fudd - the more I look at the picture the more it reminds me of "The Thing" just before it started changing into something else.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[PhreeZone 20]

>who hunts deer with a double barrel shotgun?


Yeah... I was stupid the first year (14 years old) I was allowed to hunt deer and when I went out after school one day alone I grabed the over/under and a box of slugs. Thank god I never fired it like that.

I'll take my Pumpmaster with either the 28 inch rifled or the blackpowder conversion barrel. A double barrel is stupid and he's pandering for the uninformed vote.

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>who hunts deer with a double barrel shotgun?


Yeah... I was stupid the first year (14 years old) I was allowed to hunt deer and when I went out after school one day alone I grabed the over/under and a box of slugs. Thank god I never fired it like that.

I'll take my Pumpmaster with either the 28 inch rifled or the blackpowder conversion barrel. A double barrel is stupid and he's pandering for the uninformed vote.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Kennedy 0]

OK, since we all agree Kerry is a fraud in terms of gun rights and hunting, I've got a new question for everyone.

If you take a shotgun (by definition a smooth bore firearm), and you put a rifled barrel on it to shoot saboted slugs, is it now a rifle cahmbered in a traditionally shotgun caliber, or is it still a shotgun?

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[Kennedy 0]

Phree, at least you learned better.

I came across this while surfing and generally being an insomniac

Telegraph.co.uk article

Too long to post, but worth a read.

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[kallend 2,106]

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Phree, at least you learned better.

I came across this while surfing and generally being an insomniac

Telegraph.co.uk article

Too long to post, but worth a read.

I agree with the observation of Kerry looking like a tree. I think he has more than a passing resemblance to Treebeard in LOTR.

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[nacmacfeegle 0]

For what its worth, the 'Tory-graph' is notoriously right wing (for this country anyways) in its reporting.

Its got the best job adverts of the daily papers though.

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[kallend 2,106]

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For what its worth, the 'Tory-graph' is notoriously right wing (for this country anyways) in its reporting.

I know, my brother takes it.

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[migliore 0]

And does anybody else notice that:

1) he is holding a shotgun LEVEL rather than pointing up or down
2) he is not looking where it is pointed
3) his finger is on the friggin trigger!

I've only shot guns a few times, but I would think a hunting advocate would know the first 2 rules of handling a weapon.

Yikes!

Shane

[rehmwa 2]

Not at all, Liberals are the great bastion of common sense. Therefore we are all wrong and should not point the barrel down and we should always have a finger on the trigger.

Now we know the real solution. Only take guns away from Democrats. That's the solution. Of course they won't do it voluntarily, because the government must first tell them to before breathing, shitting, etc.

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[pajarito 0]

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And does anybody else notice that:

1) he is holding a shotgun LEVEL rather than pointing up or down
2) he is not looking where it is pointed
3) his finger is on the friggin trigger!

I've only shot guns a few times, but I would think a hunting advocate would know the first 2 rules of handling a weapon.

Yikes!

He's obviously on a range with the barrell of the gun pointed downrange. If the range is hot, there should be nobody downrange. It doesn't mean that he's not controlling his weapon. No problem there. That really hurt to say because, politically speaking, I really don't like the guy. Gotta be fair, though.

[Ron 10]

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He's obviously on a range with the barrell of the gun pointed downrange. If the range is hot, there should be nobody downrange. It doesn't mean that he's not controlling his weapon. No problem there. That really hurt to say because, politically speaking, I really don't like the guy. Gotta be fair, though.

You were Army right?

Well I was told two things...
1. Look where the weapon is pointed.
2. Don't have your finger on the trigger until you are ready to pull the trigger. (I did push up for that one and burned my hand on my weapon).

Hot range or not.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"Maybe someone should tell him that very few deer hunters ever "crawl around on (their) bellies.""

Ach, they do over here, most of our red deer at least are shot in pretty open moorland, stalking them requires a fair bit of heather munching (lucky Heather eh). At least, I recall spending a lot of my time on my belly as a certified deer stalker.
But hunting deer with a shotgun, thats bordering on the illegal.

Surely the direction you point your firearm reflects the political persuasion....
Right wingers are inclined to shoot themselves in the foot quite often.
Left wingers are aiming for the pie in the sky and never quite achieve the goal.
Liberals just can't make their minds up and aim at something in between.

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[pajarito 0]

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You were Army right?

Well I was told two things...
1. Look where the weapon is pointed.
2. Don't have your finger on the trigger until you are ready to pull the trigger. (I did push up for that one and burned my hand on my weapon).

Hot range or not.

I was Army Special Forces. Not nearly as up-tight because of the advanced level of proficiency. You learn a lot of stuff in Special Forces that doesn't fall in line with a civilian basic gun safety course or the rules on a conventional Army range firing line. Sure, you always look where your weapon is pointed when you’re about to fire (as on a firing line) or when the chance for you to have to fire is immanent (walking through a house and clearing rooms). Otherwise, when just walking around, mine is always slung around my neck and pointed downward with my thumb on the safety and my finger pointed along the trigger housing. On the range, however, it’s important to either have it pointed down or just downrange. The point is to control your weapon. Use common sense. If the range is hot, downrange is clear and as long as your weapon is pointed that way, it’s not necessary that your eye be on the sight at the end of your barrel at all times. Otherwise, how will you be aware of all of your surroundings? Tunnel vision mentality like that is what makes a person dangerous (in the hazardous sense) in my opinion. You’ve got to use your head. From the picture above and without having been there, I don’t see anything that would throw up a red flag in my mind and lead me to the conclusion that Kerry is an idiot because he doesn’t know how to use a weapon.

[Ron 10]

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I was Army Special Forces. Not nearly as up-tight because of the advanced level of proficiency. You learn a lot of stuff in Special Forces that doesn't fall in line with a civilian basic gun safety course or the rules on a conventional Army range firing line. Sure, you always look where your weapon is pointed when you’re about to fire (as on a firing line) or when the chance for you to have to fire is immanent (walking through a house and clearing rooms). Otherwise, when just walking around, mine is always slung around my neck and pointed downward with my thumb on the safety and my finger pointed along the trigger housing. On the range, however, it’s important to either have it pointed down or just downrange. The point is to control your weapon. Use common sense. If the range is hot, downrange is clear and as long as your weapon is pointed that way, it’s not necessary that your eye be on the sight at the end of your barrel at all times. Otherwise, how will you be aware of all of your surroundings? Tunnel vision mentality like that is what makes a person dangerous (in the hazardous sense) in my opinion. You’ve got to use your head. From the picture above and without having been there, I don’t see anything that would throw up a red flag in my mind and lead me to the conclusion that Kerry is an idiot because he doesn’t know how to use a weapon.

You think he is as proficient as a SF guy? I don't.

Yes you need to be able to look around in a shooting situation. I CAN buy him not looking down range, but to have his finger on the trigger?

Thats just stupid, and shows that he has no clue.

The #1 saftey is your mind. The extension of that is as you said keeping your finger on the trigger guard, not the trigger.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[pajarito 0]

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You think he is as proficient as a SF guy? I don't.

Yes you need to be able to look around in a shooting situation. I CAN buy him not looking down range, but to have his finger on the trigger?

Thats just stupid, and shows that he has no clue.

The #1 saftey is you mind. The extension of that is as you said keeping your finger on the trigger guard, not the trigger.

I just quickly glanced at the picture. My bad. I stand corrected. Finger on trigger and looking somewhere else = BAD. I change my mind...he is an ignorant dumbass!!! Whew...I feel much better!

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[JohnRich 4]

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hunting deer with a shotgun, thats bordering on the illegal.

Not in many states in America. In fact, many states specify that *only* a shotgun may be used for deer hunting, because they want to limit the range of the projectiles which miss their target. Rifle bullets travel "too far".