PhillyKev 0 #26 July 30, 2004 Actually, here's a better example of bogus made up info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zee 0 #27 July 30, 2004 QuoteActually, here's a better example of bogus made up info. Well, let's be fairthey're both full of shit Action©Sports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #28 July 31, 2004 QuoteI get the feeling he's refering to Kris. Probably. My IQ tested at 156 when I was in college, and I'd said as much in another thread. I was an aide in the psychology department, and when the profs needed someone to administer a test to as a sample, they liked to pick on me, because I was usually around running the computer lab. The damn test took a long time and I was really nervous knowing it was a sample for the students. but heck, I got paid for it. I believe it was the WAIS-III (Wechsler) test. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #29 July 31, 2004 QuoteThis is funny. Even if the story is a hoax, anyone with a grasp of "IQs" would take issue with these numbers. Bill Clinton had an IQ of 182? Linus Pauling was "rumored" to have an IQ of 170. (On a sidenote, Linus Pauling was prevented by the US State Dept. from traveling to England to look at Watson and Crick's crystalographs, and many think he would have discovered the helix before they did.) Pauling proposed a "triple helix" for DNA. So close, and yet so far. He had X-Ray crystallography apparatus of his own, he didn't need to travel to see diffraction data. Quote Pascal's was estimated at a 173 (yeah, Nixon was better than that?) Or Newton, the credited discoverer of calculus? 168. Nixon was more intelligent? DaVinci? Estimated at 158. Actually, here's a question for Professor Kallend. How many Ph.D.'s are there for people who seem to be utter idiots? Surely you've personally born witness to some real savants... We certainly have had a few that needed all the help they could get.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #30 July 31, 2004 QuoteQuoteDaVinci? Estimated at 158. I've also seen estimates as high as 220. Da Vinci estimates are all over the place, but in my mind, given everything he accomplished is probably the smartest person to walk the earth. YMMV What did he accomplish? Lots of ideas, but what did he actually accomplish? Newton gets my vote. Unified the forces controlling the heavens and Earth, invented mechanics, calculus, solved the problem of the tides, predicted precession of the equinoxes before anyone could measure it, solved the problem of ballistic trajectories, explained what comets are and predicted their periodic orbits, explained the motion of the moons of Jupiter, determined the masses of the Sun, Moon and planets to a high degree of accuracy, determined the way the density and pressure of the atmosphere changes with altitude, determined the density of interplanetary space, and more...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #31 July 31, 2004 I'll have to go with Da Vinci, newton and Einstein as the smartest minds ever. A close second would be Aristotle. Ben Franklin, Plato, Freud and maybe Thomas Payne. Did you know Da Vinci was left handed and wrote backwards so the ink wouldn't smear? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #32 July 31, 2004 And lets not forget our boy Stevie Hawking. Definitely one of the greatest minds of the time. Hawking can rap, tooSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #33 July 31, 2004 Quote182 William J. Clinton 091 George W. Bush Proof that being a sex addict makes you smarter than being an alcohol addict. Hey, it's on the internet, right...so it must be true! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zee 0 #34 July 31, 2004 QuoteQuote182 William J. Clinton 091 George W. Bush Proof that being a sex addict makes you smarter than being an alcohol addict. Hey, it's on the internet, right...so it must be true! ltdiver It must be Action©Sports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #35 July 31, 2004 How about Robert Woodward, got his B.S. at 19 His PhD. at 20 from MIT, worked on the organic chemical compounds penicillin, strychnine and more, received the nobel prize in 1965 for contributions in organic synthesis for such compounds as quinine, cholesterol, lysergic acid, chlorophyll, among others. Heck, not taking away from Fischer and Wilkinson, but it can be argued that he should have been included for the 1973 Nobel prize in chemistry for his contributions to the study of organometallic sandwich compounds. As you can probably guess, I am partial to chemistry. Anyway professor, who would your vote be for the most intelligent living person?------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #36 July 31, 2004 QuoteWhat did he accomplish? Lots of ideas, but what did he actually accomplish? Why don't you consider an original idea an accomplishment? Aside from "The Last Supper" and "Mona Lisa" and other artistic accomplisments: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15440a.htm "Long before Bacon and with a far different range of application he invented the positive sciences. As a geologist, for example, he discerned that there was a "history of the earth", that the outside of the globe was not formed at a single stroke, and in this history, guided by studies of hydraulics, he successfully saw through the function of water. He divined the true nature of fossils. In botany he formulated the laws of the alternation of leaves, that of the eccentricity of trunks, and that of solar attraction. As an anatomist (he had dissected nine bodies) he gave figures concerning the insertion of the muscles and their movements which specialists still admire for their accuracy. He devised the earliest theories concerning the muscular movements of the cardiac valves. By his studies in embryology he laid the foundations for comparative anatomy. In mechanics he understood the power of steam and if he did not invent any action machines he at least made it an agent of propulsion, for he invented a steam cannon. He composed explosives and shells. But perhaps his most "modern" title to fame lies in his having laid down the principle of aviation, devoting years to this task. He foresaw nearly all the forms, parachute and montgolfier, but by boldly adhering to the "heavier than air" principle he constructed the first artificial bird."Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #37 July 31, 2004 QuoteThomas Payne You a Paine fan too Tuna? Sweet! - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #38 August 2, 2004 QuoteAnd LawRocket is right about IQs. Too many people aren't aware of how rare it is to have an IQ in the 150+. I laugh at people that say in everyday conversations that they have IQs of 165 and so forth. A lot of people don't understand that there is a difference in the scores for different tests. There are two major tests that are used by Mensa. I've taken both and the values are different by about 10. mensa QuoteThe term "IQ score" is widely used but poorly defined. There are a large number of tests with different scales. The result on one test of 132 can be the same as a score 148 on another test. QuoteI laugh at people that say in everyday conversations that they have IQs of 165 and so forth. I know a number of people with an IQ test score in the 150-160 range. Most of them wouldn't bring it up in a public venue because it is obviously going to generate a competitive, uncomfortable, and pointless discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #39 August 2, 2004 QuoteAnyway professor, who would your vote be for the most intelligent living person? A lot of people classify intelligence into categories. Most of the time, people equate intelligence with achievement. Personally, I look at it as a tool. It is not the ability to remember facts, but to combine those facts into a new combination. That combination may be the solution of a problem. Math is a good example because it can be used as a symbolic representation of the real world. You can produce mechanisms to solve problems that you don't have yet. However, art provides a way to explain feelings or ideas. Music, ditto. There are also leaders who have a "social" intelligence. Intelligence is a mental toolset. I don't think that it can be measured by its effect on society. Marlyn Vos Savant is registered by the Guiness BWR as having the highest IQ. She is remarkably clear and honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #40 August 2, 2004 QuoteI know a number of people with an IQ test score in the 150-160 range. Most of them wouldn't bring it up in a public venue That's because they have class and aren't lying. Unfortunatley many of the people do lie and have absolutely no class whatsoever. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #41 August 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteThomas Payne You a Paine fan too Tuna? Sweet! What about Rick Payne?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #42 August 2, 2004 QuoteWhat about Rick Payne? Hopefully, Rick Payne will one day be smart enough not to harrass the deputy who has him in cuffs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
