Do you think Kerry can acutally make up his mind? Nope.

[Cajundude 0]

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Edited to fix the clicky thingie.

[jdhill 0]

clicky no worky...

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

[jazzjumper 0]

That is awesome...all except for the clicky.

No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is
sick of her shit!

[Ron 10]

really good stuff.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[Harksaw 0]

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Do you think Kerry can acutally make up his mind?

Maybe.

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I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait.

[juanesky 0]

And where are all the Kerry lovers when need?

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[PhillyKev 0]

Probably reviewing the other 8000 posts that addressed this assertion.

[tunaplanet 0]

It's ok, click the link. It's video, so you can follow it real easy.

And unlike Michael Moron's fictional piece, this is all factual clips.

What was that part about Kerry admitting he felt there was WMDs in Iraq?

Enjoy.

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[DrunkMonkey 0]

Mice have fur. Except for those freaky ones they breed for medical experiments. Those ones are hairless.

[tunaplanet 0]

I think it's great to have a video that shows in black and white all of his lies and flip flops. Thanks again.

Notice you don't see too many liberals in here. Hard to drfend Kerrys own words.

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[Cajundude 0]

Wow, I would have expected much more of a rant from the other side but it is hard to defend this boob now isn't it?

[tunaplanet 0]

It sure is. The man is a liar and not trustworthy whatsoever. This country will reach an all-time low if they elect this flip-flopper to the office.

I'm actually not that worried. Despite what the polls say, I don't see Bush losing this. In the end, people will see right through Flipper.

And speaking of polls, man, Kerry really didn't get the bounce he was expecting. In fact most polls show him getting no bounce whatsoever. This is exactly why the democrats have been doing their best to keep this moron from speaking. Everytime he does he loses more votes.

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[PhillyKev 0]

All of the analysis I've read on it concerning the usual democratic bounce points out that typically, the bounce comes when the democrat is trailing by 10-15 points, and they get bumped up a few above the republican. Kerry was already there, so most of the analysts on both sides didn't expect much of one.

[tunaplanet 0]

Never heard that theory.

The democratic camp is nervous, more so than ever. Most conventions will net the candidate a decent rise in the polls. His was so marginal it's not funny.

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[billvon 2,991]

>The democratic camp is nervous, more so than ever.

?? The democrats were way behind in 1992; Bush I was far ahead of Clinton in the polls going into the primary. Now most polls show Bush and Kerry about even. Why would they be more nervous now?

[tunaplanet 0]

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Why would they be more nervous now?

Because they received no bounce after his speech during the convention. Parties always get a decent bounce. Kerry's was haedly noticable.

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[billvon 2,991]

>Because they received no bounce after his speech during the convention.

Hmm. From http://www.electoral-vote.com/:
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We now know whether there was a post-convention bounce for Kerry. Answer: there was. Of course, there always is, and it evens up after the other convention, but for the moment, Kerry has received a boost. He is now ahead in the electoral college 328 to 210, with all 50 states and D.C. reporting for duty (we had two ties until today). The Wall Street Journal's estimate using a different methodology is 318 to 220. Close enough for government work.
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Sounds like no reason for nervousness. The post-convention bounce will likely be followed by a GOP bounce after _their_ convention, which should tie things up again. If anything, the GOP has to be shitting bricks; Bush HAS to take Florida to win again, and I suspect shenanigans will not be tolerated there this year. And right now it's going for Kerry.

[tunaplanet 0]

Spin it how you like. Bottom line is almost every poll shows Kerry with no bounce from the convention and almost a dead heat in the elections.

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[billvon 2,991]

> . . . and almost a dead heat in the elections.

If we had a democratically elected president that might matter. We don't; currently Kerry is leading Bush 328 to 210 electoral votes. Which has to have some GOPers pretty worried (the smart ones, at least.)

[tunaplanet 0]

Your figures are way off from the ones being presented by most polling data.

Glad to see you're content that you found one poll that suits your agenda and now want to scream from the mountain tops.

I saw a website that said bigfoot was real. Must be true

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[billvon 2,991]

> Your figures are way off from the ones being presented by most polling data.

Do you have a source that shows compiled electoral vote data? (Note that this is not the same as popular polls.)

[kelpdiver 2]

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All of the analysis I've read on it concerning the usual democratic bounce points out that typically, the bounce comes when the democrat is trailing by 10-15 points, and they get bumped up a few above the republican. Kerry was already there, so most of the analysts on both sides didn't expect much of one.

I read this claim, and it's as fishy as most spin control. You need only look back to the 1988 year to see it as false. Dukakis got a huge bump, enough so that the party was a bit arrogant during the convention with a lot of silver spoon remarks at Bush's expense. Wasn't even close at the end.

The only plausible story was that Edwards had already been named, so any bonus from his selection was already in the game.

Bush is likely to get a decent jump as the RNC brings their voters back, so not having a lead now isn't what Kerry needs.

[kallend 2,027]

I just love this flip flop:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

FLIP

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

FLOP

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Frenchy68 0]

Hopefully, Bush will get enough of a bounce after the RNC that we'll read about him in the "incident" section...

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[tunaplanet 0]

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Kerry is leading Bush 328 to 210 electoral votes.

According to one poll. I wasn't even going to respond yto your "data" because all of us partial-minded people know that you can find any poll numbers you want if you look hard/lomg enough.

Probably one of the more respected polls has been Rasmussen. Check them out. They have it.....

Kerry - 227
Bush - 197
Toss up - 114

Also keep in mind that The RNC is about to roll out. Bush now has the chance to boost his numbers (something Kerry couldn't do).

We can throw back a kajillion websites all day long. What does it prove? It proves that there are millions of websites out there that can prove anyones point. Everyone is biased for the most part.

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