PhreeZone 20 #51 August 4, 2004 QuoteWhat kids like Phree and Dave don't understand is one website is not the here-all end-all say on anything. Ah yes, because we all know that the International Trade Association which is tied to the Department of Commerce is in the habit of changing the count of barrels imported to negitively reflect on your figures. Dave said something, you told him to prove it. I proved it. Sorry, but you are wrong on this. Trying to pass it off is taking the low road.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #52 August 4, 2004 Re-read what I wrote. In a day or two it may sink in. Let me guess. You're in college too. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #53 August 4, 2004 >Let me guess. You're in college too. Thanks for the weak personal attack, but your wrong on that one too. Sorry, you do not collect $200 How about this.. why don't you prove that the Governments figures are wrong?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #54 August 4, 2004 Funny. You strike me as your typical college kid or at least used to be in college. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #55 August 4, 2004 QuoteLast time I checked the Dems didn't control the White House or either house of Congress. Pure spin. When the dems DID control both houses and Clinton was pres, he didn't always get his way in Congress either. It only took a couple of senators to not support the party leadership to stop a bill. So, it is not pure spin. Some Rep senators did not support the pres, but the entire dem leadership was against it.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #56 August 4, 2004 Tuna . . . let it go.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #57 August 4, 2004 More support for the Ag-man. American Petroleum Institute as well. Frequently updated statistics and reports. http://api-ec.api.org/frontpage.cfm 18.7% imports from the persian gulf. Imports are 65.5% of total domestic use. Means that 12.2% of domestic use comes from the gulf. Big 3? Saudi, Iraq, then Kuwait. 11, 12, close enough. Could we replace that 12% by opening ANWR, and working with (ie., [ahem] paying off) Canada to go after the oil sands and reserves in alberta and saksa... skatche... shoobedo... the province east of alberta? Once we can improve the technology to get it out, that is. Billions of barrels there. I was a kid in the late 70s but I remember the oil crisis. The gov't regulated MPG and asia was there to build better and smaller cars. That's where all these hondas and toyotas came from. They weren't around before that. You want blame? How about this? Seems the key here is that trucks were exempted from the same MPG controls as cars, and hence the SUV was born. What, you thought there was that much off-road demand in the US??? No, it's the loophole for how to get a bigger "car". Buy something classified as a truck. And yes, i'm a republican with a cherokee, so yes, for now i'm part of the 'demand' problem. If only we had stayed on the route of fuel efficiency. Go to Europe and there's nothing but small cars and trucks. Doesn't seem to slow down their commerce. We could be telling the middle east to drink their oil for all we care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #58 August 4, 2004 The perfect solution to sever our oil dependency, while maintaining our ability to go to the DZ everyday. Drive the newest Mercedes-Benz! The ultimate gas guzzler killer! Geez, you can even bring you rig with you ! No laugh. This car will be sold in Canada beginning september 2004. Only the turbo-Diesel version will be sold. The car is surprisingly roomy...for a two seater. Don't expect Ferrari like performance out of this car though, as the turbo-diesel engine put out only 40 Hp. They're still not officially on sale, yet they're all sold already......... http://www.smart.com/-snm-0135137740-1091554901-0000025026-0000000000-1091592614-enm-is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/mpc-ca-content-Site/en_CA/-/CAD/SVCPresentationPipeline-Start?Page=issite%3a%2f%2fsmart-Site%2fsmart%2ecom%2fRootFolder%2fsmart%2fmodelle%2fsmartcitycoupe%2epage Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #59 August 4, 2004 Tried to figure it out. I give up. What is the fuel consumption on that car? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #60 August 4, 2004 Quote The cdi turbodiesel. The direct injection 3-cylinder cdi rear-mounted engine with turbocharger and charge air cooler weighs just 69 kg. Average consumption over 100 km is just 3.4 litres (combined). The smart fortwo coupé cdi has low consumption and low emissions: 90 g of carbon dioxide (CO 2) per kilometre. So, for the math impaired, that's about 69.18076324604914 miles per gallon.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #61 August 4, 2004 Technical Details on the link lists fuel consumption as l/100km...but the font on the site makes it look exactly like 1/100km. Decameters didn't make much sense. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #63 August 4, 2004 "Environmental regulations these days, while nice, aren't really condusive to keeping gasoline prices low." There are moral issues associated with using cheaper dirty third world refineries, and I don't think that importing the products from such places is a particularly wise thing to do.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #64 August 4, 2004 QuoteFunny. You strike me as your typical college kid or at least used to be in college. ¿Is there anything wrong for going to college? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #65 August 4, 2004 QuoteThere are moral issues associated with using cheaper dirty third world refineries, and I don't think that importing the products from such places is a particularly wise thing to do. Well, if the environmental regulations in the US weren't so strict, we wouldn't have to use 'cheaper dirty third world refineries'. We could build new refineries here and reopen some of the closed refineries. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be an option, so we're forced, instead, to use what we can. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #66 August 4, 2004 QuoteMakes about as much sense as a guy who has only read about skydiving giving advice to Dan BC We have guys on here that do that kind of shit all the time. Quoteor a pilot who knows no math or engineering trying to design an airplane. Some of the best planes were designed that way."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #67 August 4, 2004 QuoteQuote The cdi turbodiesel. The direct injection 3-cylinder cdi rear-mounted engine with turbocharger and charge air cooler weighs just 69 kg. Average consumption over 100 km is just 3.4 litres (combined). The smart fortwo coupé cdi has low consumption and low emissions: 90 g of carbon dioxide (CO 2) per kilometre. So, for the math impaired, that's about 69.18076324604914 miles per gallon. Can't you give us a more precise value?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #68 August 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteMakes about as much sense as a guy who has only read about skydiving giving advice to Dan BC We have guys on here that do that kind of shit all the time. Quoteor a pilot who knows no math or engineering trying to design an airplane. Some of the best planes were designed that way. Name them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #69 August 4, 2004 QuoteBill freakin Clinton is the asshole that signed NAFTA into law and married the United States into the WTO. Agree 100%. It was the most right wing thing Clinton did in office. But now we've got a whole senate, house, and presidency that are all right wing. Both parties are two sides of the same coin. But the power structure currently in place in the US is very dangerous, devisive and has the potential to remove power from the people and put it into the hands of the government. And plenty of Americans are more than willing to give up that power to feel safe. It scares me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #70 August 4, 2004 QuoteName them. Weeks special"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #71 August 4, 2004 What is more important? Cheaper gas prices or a cleaner environment? Yes, the EPA has some very high limits on some of their partitulates per million on some chemicals, but I'd rather see high standerds and concern for the environment then low standerds and a disreguard for the environment. Some one was saying that Mexico has such dirty air and its due to their lax environmental regulations, would you perfer that we have the same air quality just for cheap gas?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #72 August 4, 2004 >Weeks special The Weeks Special was designed by Kermit Weeks; he has a degree in Aeronautical Engineering. That makes him an excellent person to design an airplane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #73 August 4, 2004 Quotehe has a degree in Aeronautical Engineering. That makes him an excellent person to design an airplane. I know quite a few aero-spank engineers (inside joke, sorry), I know for a fact that a lot of them I want them no where near a design or design team or even thinking of designing an airplane. Of course those are the ones that specialized in the rocketry side of the house...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #74 August 4, 2004 QuoteThe Weeks Special was designed by Kermit Weeks; he has a degree in Aeronautical Engineering. That makes him an excellent person to design an airplane. From what I was told...By Kermit himself (he lives near Lakeland) he didn't have the degree when he designed it..."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #75 August 4, 2004 >he didn't have the degree when he designed it... Per his bio, he started his degree in 1973 and designed the Weeks Racer in 1977. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
