quade 4 #1 August 5, 2004 Wow, you guys should really take a look at this news web site for unbiased news coverage of the election. It's almost impossible to tell just by looking at the sponsors of the site if they are or are not unbiased. Seriously, WTF is up with that ad?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #2 August 5, 2004 I saw three sponsors - 1) The Video Proffessor - Now that's a political leaning, huh? 2) The National Fatherhood Initiative - yeah - no clue there - that HAS to be biased! 3) SBC - yep that nasty ol' phone company - fuckers - shouldn't be so biased, you know they have a vast right wing conspiracy to tap all our phone lines to brain wash us into making incomplete chad punches. Yeah - I can see your point there Paul - WTF are those guys doing advertising?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 August 6, 2004 Ok, I'll admit I had to reduce this screen grab and compress the hell out of it so that I could upload it to this web site, but other than that, this image is unaltered. Maybe you can spot the problem now. "Fair and Balanced" my ass. In my opinion, this in an unconscionable breech of ethics.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #4 August 6, 2004 The SF Chronicle's web page runs lots of ads for Kerry's campaign, too. I don't think the Bush campaign has see fit to buy banner space there. Your conclusion is a bit of a jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #5 August 6, 2004 QuoteOk, I'll admit I had to reduce this screen grab and compress the hell out of it so that I could upload it to this web site, but other than that, this image is unaltered. Maybe you can spot the problem now. "Fair and Balanced" my ass. In my opinion, this in an unconscionable breech of ethics. I think that that is a marvelous Idea. I also think that they PIAD for the ad. *shrug* if Kerry's people paid enough - they could buy space there too. There is no evidence - just supposition.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 August 6, 2004 I think you may see some ad buys on some of the lesser news sites, but I doubt you'll see anything like this on any of the other major network news sites.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #7 August 6, 2004 QuoteI think you may see some ad buys on some of the lesser news sites, but I doubt you'll see anything like this on any of the other major network news sites. Why not? As I said before - if he wants to put up the cash - Even FN would put his ad there.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 August 6, 2004 It's not a matter of the Bush '04 or Kerry '04 people -wanting- to buy the ad space, it's a matter of the media outlet -letting- them have it placed on their political analysis web page. It's just wrong.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #9 August 6, 2004 While you're looking at Foxnews, you can look at CNN for the exact same thing!!! http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 August 6, 2004 Gimme a frame grab where there is an anti-Bush ad on the page and I'll agree with you -- 'cause like -- I ain't seein' it. edited to add I -will- admit there is a pro-Kerry donation ad that runs in the cycle. Took me a few reloads to find it. AND . . . I'm writing them to complain about it. Here's the frame grab of the ad on CNN.com I'm tellin' ya . . . that just ain't right.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #11 August 6, 2004 Yes, it's not near as harsh as the foxnews ad. But the point is media outlets are biased, no matter where you go. I've also seen numerous pro-Kerry/Edwards ads on msnbc.com, but wasn't able to find any tonight.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 August 6, 2004 So letting candidates, the media, and billionaire groups be the only ones with first amendment rights for months before the election, that's ok with you, but letting the media provide advertising space to candidates, that's not ok with you? Can't say I see your logic in that one. edit: just an FYI there quade, but there's more than one pro Kerry add in that cycle. I've seen three different ones now.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 August 6, 2004 You should see the CNN ad that starts with Bush and Cheney looking all pissed off, moves to some support the DNC message, then a smiling Edwards and Kerry. Not exactly flattering.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #14 August 6, 2004 Well, whatever letter you've written, go ahead and send it to the Washington Post as well. See attachedwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 August 6, 2004 Quote So letting candidates, the media, and billionaire groups be the only ones with first amendment rights for months before the election, that's ok with you, but letting the media provide advertising space to candidates, that's not ok with you? It smacks of bias to have ads in support of only one candidate on the web site. I guess I wouldn't mind so much if they both had ads from both candidates -- neither does. They ONLY have ads for one side or the other.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 August 6, 2004 QuoteIt smacks of bias to have ads in support of only one candidate on the web site. I guess I wouldn't mind so much if they both had ads from both candidates -- neither does. They ONLY have ads for one side or the other. The media IS biased, but hey, the sun is yellow and grass is green, and on good days the sky is blue. If only one candidate chooses to advertise with them should they not run that candidate's ad? I can't see Kerry advertising on CNSNews, or Bush running ads in the LATimes, you know?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #17 August 6, 2004 I tried to put it politely when I asked: "Should a moderator be so partisan?" Well, back to the basics... Greenies shouldn't troll. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #18 August 6, 2004 >"Should a moderator be so partisan?" What does it matter if they are left, right, martian or from the Vergo cluster? They aer here to keep the peace and monitor the posts to make sure they don't violate the few rules on here.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #19 August 6, 2004 QuoteThey aer here to keep the peace and monitor the posts to make sure they don't violate the few rules on here. Trolling is a violaton of the rules. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 August 6, 2004 Hell, if you want to say any post that causes arguement is a troll then I think most people can be banned from here. PJ and Kennedy for their gun posts, anything that links to any party site, etc. I see this post as good since bitching is directed at more then one source with of signs of possible bias.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #21 August 6, 2004 Is it trolling if the person posting is the one truly pissed off at the concept posted? I thought trolling was a post made specifically to piss off other people.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #22 August 6, 2004 And a really poor attempt at that, I may say."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #23 August 6, 2004 >Trolling is a violaton of the rules. True. Then again, we decide what trolling is. And posting things that other people disagree with is not trolling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #24 August 6, 2004 QuoteI think you may see some ad buys on some of the lesser news sites, but I doubt you'll see anything like this on any of the other major network news sites. CNN had a big Kerry (anti-Bush) ad a few weeks ago. So much for your theory"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #25 August 6, 2004 Quote>Trolling is a violaton of the rules. True. Then again, we decide what trolling is. And posting things that other people disagree with is not trolling. Right - So then perhaps a new namer change then - How about Speakers Bridge Kidding - Kidding Who does this guy think he is questioning a Greenie? I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
