Ron 10 #26 August 16, 2004 Quotegeez - did he enact any of that into law? Seems GWB was pretty quick to enact the 'patriot act', giving them the right to trample on everyone's rights and freedoms Kerry also wrote and voted for the PA. Hell most voted for the PA."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #27 August 16, 2004 Can you think of any other way to head it? Impossible. Everything at that level is political."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 August 16, 2004 Quotegeez - did he enact any of that into law? Seems GWB was pretty quick to enact the 'patriot act', giving them the right to trample on everyone's rights and freedoms (as I said earlier, in the 'name of freedom') http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207 Oh, but that's right - you will not have any effect from the patriot act (nor will I) because you are white, (and likely from some Christian background), so why should you worry? Afterall, if we just eliminated everyone that opposed us in any way - would life not be so much easier to live? But then we DO need to keep some of them around, especially the people that make those cheap toasters and car parts for us..... As long as we do not affect MY freedoms, it will be OK I guess. Want some quotes from Bush to compete with quotes from Clinton? Go to the "American Jokes" thread. TK Please show me just where I've advocated any preference for ANY race, color or religion being treated any differenty than any other race, color or religion.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #29 August 16, 2004 Screw the politicians! Put TheAnvil in charge! Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #30 August 16, 2004 QuoteScrew the politicians! Put TheAnvil in charge! Vinny the Anvil Here, Here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #31 August 16, 2004 you did not in fact - it was my sarcastic remark towards the collective 'you', as opposed to the sigular 'you' hard to define in print Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #32 August 16, 2004 QuoteQuotegeez - did he enact any of that into law? Seems GWB was pretty quick to enact the 'patriot act', giving them the right to trample on everyone's rights and freedoms Kerry also wrote and voted for the PA. Hell most voted for the PA. Yes - he did help write it - and commented how pleased he was with it - he then voted for it - It took away some of the rights that people covet - it also dons more responsibility and control for the goverment - Kerry LOVED this part.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #33 August 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteIn general: Socialism by it's definition does not believe in civil rights. Could you post a definition of socialism that directly or indirectly implies a disregard for civil rights? What do you understand for civil rights? Civil rights is the governmental recognition that a person may make choices and enter voluntary relationships/interactions without governmental control. It revolves around the civil society. Socialism is the idea that there is no such thing as a civil society, but rather that government controls all aspects. Examples: who you can hire, who you can sell things to, what you can teach your kids, how you can discipline your kids, where you can smoke, what your doctor has to report to bureaucracy in violation of doctor patient priveledge, etc etc etc. I do not recognize most of the "civil rights" leaders of today as having any interest whatsoever in civil rights. Most of them want special consideration for their group, rather than equality for all (some of the biggest racists I've ever seen claim to be fighting for civil rights). The more morals are legislated and the government is brought into our living room, the less civil liberty there can be, no matter what group is receiving hand outs in public.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #34 August 16, 2004 Remember what I said in the tax thread? These people don't understand that the proper order for things is a limited government, or that in a healthy arrangement a government does not affect citizens directly unless some wrong has been committed. They think the government needs to control everything, and that somehow it will do a better job if we just give it full control. They think civil rights means what we give away to people who believe something about them gives them an automatic claim to certain things. The concept of life without government intrusion is a foreign one to them, or at least a horrible one.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #35 August 16, 2004 Thank you for telling me what I think. Actually, you're wrong. I do think gov't spending and programs should be reduced. I just don't think taxes should be cut before they are. That's irresponsible. You don't increase spending and then take a pay cut. And you don't take a pay cut before you reduce spending. Yes, reduce the size of federal gov't and THEN reduce taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #36 August 16, 2004 Quote Can you think of any other way to head it? Impossible. Everything at that level is political. I think there is a difference between a political appointment and the appointment of a politician.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #37 August 16, 2004 QuoteI think there is a difference between a political appointment and the appointment of a politician. Well thats a great idea. But not likely to happen. Politicians try to put people who will support them into positions...Case in point Kerry saying he will only appoint Judges to the Supreme Court that are Pro-Choice. In an ideal world one subject should not make or break a selection. However, not likley to happen."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #38 August 16, 2004 Judges are supposed to make a judgment based on the law and the merits of the case, not on a predetermined belief. "Once upon a time, back when judges needed a trial before deciding a case..."witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #39 August 16, 2004 QuoteJudges are supposed to make a judgment based on the law and the merits of the case, not on a predetermined belief. "Once upon a time, back when judges needed a trial before deciding a case..." Yes, but again in an ieal world. In the real world we know that does not happen. Law makers will actually READ laws they pass in an ideal world. Law makers would respect the Constitution not "interpret" it. Which means I could have a full auto machine gun, and gays could enter into legal unions."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macumba 0 #40 April 17, 2013 Fucka fucka. That should be enough for today. See you again tomorrow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
