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What they cannot do is review the why as that decision was made by his commanding officer at the time, and if approved (merited or otherwise, i'm not going to get into the merits of anyone’s awards) are official.



What is it was forged or otherwise not properly "approved."

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Deplorable as the attack on the WTC was (and it was deplorable -- I'm not given to strong words, so don't read anything into that choice), it was not enough to terminate government.



What was so deplorable? According to you, it was just an attack on western economics, so the bodies were just incidental. What's so terrible about that?

I mean, they're "just people", same as me and you, so they have every right to act out, right?


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I also don't think Kerry has been a poor senator -- just not an incredible standout. He's in Kennedy's shadow, and that's a mighty big shadow. I'm sure you think that Kennedy is evil incarnate, but he does a great job of representing the interests of Massachusetts voters.



No, Kerry wants to be in JFKennedy's shadow. He's stuck in Ted Kennedy's shadow, because he is just a slightly younger, slightly thinner, equally as disturbing Mass. senator. He has been Ted K's voting clone since taking office. I can't think of any more left than him (running form your record much?)

Kerry doesn't deserve to lick the dirt over JFKennedy's grave (and I'm not a particularly big fan of JFKennedy).

ps - I am not evil incarnate, and Mass. voters can go to hell. :P
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ps - I am not evil incarnate, and Mass. voters can go to hell



Whoa! Hang on there Scooter! I'm a Massachusetts voter and I can assure you that Kerry nor Kennedy represent my interests at all.

And Wendy, nice sweeping statement there. Trust me, there are plenty of folks here in Massachusetts who do not agree with either of our "illustrious" senators. In fact, many of us find them to be an embarrassment.>:(



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ps - I am not evil incarnate, and Mass. voters can go to hell



Whoa! Hang on there Scooter! I'm a Massachusetts voter and I can assure you that Kerry nor Kennedy represent my interests at all.

And Wendy, nice sweeping statement there. Trust me, there are plenty of folks here in Massachusetts who do not agree with either of our "illustrious" senators. In fact, many of us find them to be an embarrassment.>:(



Sorry bout that, I was a bit fumed that the older Mass. POS shares my name.

My -ps- should've read "the majority of Mass. voters can go to hell."
...of course, that means I believe most Mass. voters did in fact vote for Ted Kennedy and Kerry, but really I wouldn't put tampering past either of them.
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True the majority have voted for kerrykennedy, or else they wouldn't be in office. However, there is still a sizeable portion of our citizens who vote against them. Don't forget, we often have a Republican Governor...like right now.

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I despise John Kerry. However, I also am against making medals awarded 30 + years ago a campaign issue. He served. Good for him. His POST service actions are what make him such a despicable person. The only sequitur thing about Monsieur sKerry's medals for me are when he was throwing them over the fence at Dewey Canyon.

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I also am against making medals awarded 30 + years ago a campaign issue.



This is true, but I think the issue is not the medals themselves, but whether he is telling the truth about any medals he may or may not have received. If he's willing to lie about his past, what sorts of lies can we expect about the future?
Kerry is not honest or trustworthy, and while I'll give that most politicians tend to be somewhat shady characters, Kerry takes it to a new extreme.


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I also am against making medals awarded 30 + years ago a campaign issue.



This is true, but I think the issue is not the medals themselves, but whether he is telling the truth about any medals he may or may not have received. If he's willing to lie about his past, what sorts of lies can we expect about the future?
Kerry is not honest or trustworthy, and while I'll give that most politicians tend to be somewhat shady characters, Kerry takes it to a new extreme.



GWB, of course, simply won't say what he was doing 30+ years ago and the records are sealed. He also sealed his records as governor of TX and his father's records as VP and President. I wonder why....
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What was so deplorable? According to you, it was just an attack on western economics, so the bodies were just incidental. What's so terrible about that?



No, according to me, that is one possible viewpoint. And I happen to think that incidental deaths are still deaths -- don't most people?

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don't most people?



Those quitters? I'm disgusted that you could group some of us with the group of "deathies." I have you know that there are some of us that hold ourselves to a higher standard and won't succumb to death's icy blow and quit life. Damn quitters.
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GWB, of course, simply won't say what he was doing 30+ years ago and the records are sealed. He also sealed his records as governor of TX and his father's records as VP and President. I wonder why....



But again, campaigns should be based on the present, not the past, when it comes to such issues. I don't care what Kerry did in Vietnam, I don't care about what GWB did in the 60's and 70's - I'm concerned with their policies for government.


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I agree, sKerry is scum. However, I am a different man than I was 10 years ago, much less 30. If the SOB realizes now that what he did back then was horrible, perhaps I'd have an iota of respect for him. Unlike Jane Fonda, sKerry hasn't apologized, nor do I believe he will.

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sKerry hasn't apologized, nor do I believe he will.

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I don't know if an apology would be enough for me to learn to respect the man - then again, I might vote FOR forgiveness, then change my mind and vote AGAINST it;)


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I despise John Kerry. However, I also am against making medals awarded 30 + years ago a campaign issue. He served. Good for him. His POST service actions are what make him such a despicable person. The only sequitur thing about Monsieur sKerry's medals for me are when he was throwing them over the fence at Dewey Canyon.

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I agree...but WE didn't bring them up. He did, so I think it's okay to question the veracity of his claims since that is the only thing he is using to justify him being elected.

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GWB, of course, simply won't say what he was doing 30+ years ago and the records are sealed. He also sealed his records as governor of TX and his father's records as VP and President. I wonder why....



But again, campaigns should be based on the present, not the past, when it comes to such issues. I don't care what Kerry did in Vietnam, I don't care about what GWB did in the 60's and 70's - I'm concerned with their policies for government.



Oh, the present. So you will consider:

Record surplus turned into record deficit by GWB's policies

Government spending UP under GWB

Went to war under false pretenses, led by GWB.

"Mission Accomplished" announced prematurely by GWB

Unemployment UP

Health care costs UP

Energy costs UP

Thanks to GWB and his rich cronies.
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Oh, the present. So you will consider:

Record surplus turned into record deficit by GWB's policies
-- yes, 9/11 and Clinton's dotcom economy about nothing had nothing to do with it

Government spending UP under GWB
-- again 9/11

Went to war under false pretenses, led by GWB.
-- and a lot of Dems agreed based on the info at hand

Unemployment UP
-- See Clinton's Seinfeld economy above

Health care costs UP
-- yes, they dropped so much under Clinton

Energy costs UP
-- See above and thank Greespan for low interest rates deflating the dollar

Thanks to GWB and his rich cronies.

-- You're welcome!!!

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I agree...but WE didn't bring them up.



that is not entirely true - the accumulation of chicken-hawks and
war-theoreticians who would choose to go to wars on ideological
reasons and who would trumpet with war herosim they had absolutely
no personal understanding of this administration is certainly standing
out in recent US history.

That the military record of a counter-candidate would be central was
thus an inevitable reaction that anyone could have predicted.


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Oh, the present. So you will consider:

Record surplus turned into record deficit by GWB's policies
-- yes, 9/11 and Clinton's dotcom economy about nothing had nothing to do with it

Government spending UP under GWB
-- again 9/11

Went to war under false pretenses, led by GWB.
-- and a lot of Dems agreed based on the info at hand

Unemployment UP
-- See Clinton's Seinfeld economy above

Health care costs UP
-- yes, they dropped so much under Clinton

Energy costs UP
-- See above and thank Greespan for low interest rates deflating the dollar

Thanks to GWB and his rich cronies.

-- You're welcome!!!



Ditto...and let's not forget that MOST of the things that have been affected negatively are on the rise, and the "false pretenses" for war were NOT ALL false; besides, there were several agencies, not all of which were American, who believed that there were WMD's. And this was not the only reason to go to war, it was just the one the dems spun around to make GWB look like a liar.


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Oh, the present. So you will consider:

Record surplus turned into record deficit by GWB's policies
-- yes, 9/11 and Clinton's dotcom economy about nothing had nothing to do with it

Government spending UP under GWB
-- again 9/11

Went to war under false pretenses, led by GWB.
-- and a lot of Dems agreed based on the info at hand

Unemployment UP
-- See Clinton's Seinfeld economy above

Health care costs UP
-- yes, they dropped so much under Clinton

Energy costs UP
-- See above and thank Greespan for low interest rates deflating the dollar

Thanks to GWB and his rich cronies.

-- You're welcome!!!



Ditto...and let's not forget that MOST of the things that have been affected negatively are on the rise, and the "false pretenses" for war were NOT ALL false; besides, there were several agencies, not all of which were American, who believed that there were WMD's. And this was not the only reason to go to war, it was just the one the dems spun around to make GWB look like a liar.



"NOT ALL FALSE" - that's a great line. Bush's reasons for going to war weren't ALL false. 900 American boys dead and the reasons are NOT ALL FALSE.

It's easy to "make GWB look like a liar" because he is one.
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Oh, the present. So you will consider:

Record surplus turned into record deficit by GWB's policies
-- yes, 9/11 and Clinton's dotcom economy about nothing had nothing to do with it

Government spending UP under GWB
-- again 9/11

Went to war under false pretenses, led by GWB.
-- and a lot of Dems agreed based on the info at hand

Unemployment UP
-- See Clinton's Seinfeld economy above

Health care costs UP
-- yes, they dropped so much under Clinton

Energy costs UP
-- See above and thank Greespan for low interest rates deflating the dollar

Thanks to GWB and his rich cronies.

-- You're welcome!!!



9/11 and "Bad Intel", the Universal Excuses for GWB's failures.
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"NOT ALL FALSE" - that's a great line. Bush's reasons for going to war weren't ALL false. 900 American boys dead and the reasons are NOT ALL FALSE.

It's easy to "make GWB look like a liar" because he is one.



By not all false, I mean that many of them are legitamate, and obviously enough of the people who count, including your left-wing socialist-wannabe politicians, agreed with the reasons that turned out, to no fault of GWB, to not be legitamate. And besides, just because the WMD's aren't there now doesn't mean they never were; no one ever claimed Hussein was stupid, just evil.


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