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That may be true.. Fact is.. Kerry is done.. Bush will go another 4 years..
Yeah.. And we know how accurate your fortune telling has been.
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It's the year of the Pig.
rhino 0
QuoteBut that night is two months out and to proclaim GWB the winner because you liked what he said last night is a joke.
We will see in come election time won't we. John Kerry is a clown
QuoteOne of the most negative conventions -- ever?
That would be the DNC this year. That negative hate-fest is one of the reasons Kerry has lost the lead in the electoral college. That and the fact he is the biggest liar politics has ever seen. The man can't keep his story straight to save his life.
It has cost him this election.
Forty-two
rhino 0
QuoteIt has cost him this election.
Can I get an Amen!
hmmm... Well he didn't necessarily lose the election.. He would have had to be winning at some point to do that
Muenkel 0
Gosh, I want to have your optimism. I just think it is too early to start celebrating. I think we're in for the ugliest 60 days. But, my wish is that President Bush prevails.
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quade 4
Tuna --
Your ability to see what you want to see and ignore historical facts, things that have been written for all to see, is truly amazing.
Your ability to see what you want to see and ignore historical facts, things that have been written for all to see, is truly amazing.
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QuoteTuna --
Your ability to see what you want to see and ignore historical facts, things that have been written for all to see, is truly amazing.
Same goes for you quade...
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QuoteYour ability to see what you want to see and ignore historical facts, things that have been written for all to see, is truly amazing.
Nah. I'm just a realist who can intelligently decipher events based on factual accounts and events without getting blinded by my feelings towards a political party.
But hey, don't take my word for it. Mark this post and we'll review it after the elections to see whose right and whose taken a step off the deep end.
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quade 4
Whoever -wins- has nothing to do with which of us is "correct" in this sentiment.
All one need do is read the transcripts or watch the videos from both convention's keynote speakers. Obama's speech was inclusive and one of hope. Miller's was a tirade against the opposition.
These are fairly simple facts.
All one need do is read the transcripts or watch the videos from both convention's keynote speakers. Obama's speech was inclusive and one of hope. Miller's was a tirade against the opposition.
These are fairly simple facts.
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mnealtx 0
The same CBPP that can't seem to find anything good to say about the economy? I think I'll trust the Treasury Dept's data, thanks... at least they show the good along with the bad.
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Quotehas nothing to do with which of us is "correct" in this sentiment.
It has everything to do with being correct. You feel through your research and study that Kerry will win. I have been trying to tell you for the last month or two he has no chance.
We'll break it down like this. I know most liberals hate answering a simple. "a/b" question but give it a twirl. I would like Quade to answer this for me.
Question - Through your research and study and amazing ability to comprehend facts who will win the election...Bush or Kerry.
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Jib 0
QuoteQuotehas nothing to do with which of us is "correct" in this sentiment.
It has everything to do with being correct. You feel through your research and study that Kerry will win. I have been trying to tell you for the last month or two he has no chance.
Then Kallend can call one of you a liar or tell you your research must have been incompetent.
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QuoteQuoteQuotehas nothing to do with which of us is "correct" in this sentiment.
It has everything to do with being correct. You feel through your research and study that Kerry will win. I have been trying to tell you for the last month or two he has no chance.
Then Kallend can call one of you a liar or tell you your research must have been incompetent.
And not answer to a direct, simple question, with a direct answer but with some bush is lying quotes.
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Yep, but what is truly amazing is they are both from the same party. One is fed up with his own party (one he has been a successful member of for a lifetime) and one who is trying to make his way in his own party.
If you measure the conventions on these two speakers, then yeah, Zel Miller did the tirade (and BTW, got better ratings for it as well.) However, the conventions are not simply keynote speakers.
Now, lets look at the whole picture.
Which party kept quiet while the other had it's own convention?
Which candidates followed the time honored tradition of allowing a convention to go without response until after it had concluded?
Which party picketted, hired rent-a-crowds to protest, and had more than 1800 people arrested for violating the law?
Which party had more than 5 people arrested on the convention floor for lying and stealing passes to obtain access to the others convention?
You can (and will) sit there and state that the Democrats are the party of inclusiveness and hope, but the people who pay attention know better. The hate and vitriol spewed forth by the media, the Democratic backed 527s (ex: Moveon.org), and the Michael Moore crowd more than balance Zell's paultry speech. The reason dems are so mad about it is because one of their own pulled the sheet of the party for all to see.
And it worked.
So when someone at a campaign stump heckles Kerry, he tells them to shut up, gets angry. When someone heckles Bush, he either praises free speech, or simply remains silent (as he did a few times curing his speech) it while security handles the problem. Now who has more class?
No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is
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Oh come on, you have to admit the Democrats are the party of inclusiveness (as long as you shut up and agree with them).
Zell Miller is one of the last politicians who can vote his conscience.
(he may be the last one that has a conscience)
It says something when he steps down and can't even endorse the democrat looking to fill his seat.
Zell Miller is one of the last politicians who can vote his conscience.
(he may be the last one that has a conscience)
It says something when he steps down and can't even endorse the democrat looking to fill his seat.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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It says something when he steps down and can't even endorse the democrat looking to fill his seat.
It says more that he won't switch parties to be a republican because he believe much of the core of his party maintains his own values. He is a man with convictions.
No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is
sick of her shit!
quade 4
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It has everything to do with being correct. You feel through your research and study that Kerry will win.
Then you've misunderstood my position.
I believe he -should- win. That he is the better man for the job.
That is not to say that I am giving odds that he -will- win. Only history will tell us that.
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So when someone at a campaign stump heckles Kerry, he tells them to shut up, gets angry. When someone heckles Bush, he either praises free speech, or simply remains silent (as he did a few times curing his speech) it while security handles the problem. Now who has more class?
Without question the -smartest- thing to do is simply pause and let security handle the situation. No question.
That said, I'm not talking about what happens in the audience or what happens in the movie theaters by an independant producer or on TV by a group carrying a grudge over words spoken 35 years ago, but rather what is actually said by the speakers put in front of the world at this time to represent the feelings of the parties.
It can and shouold be reasonably argued that Kerry has no more control over Michael Moore than GWB has over the Swift Boat Vets. However, Karl Rove -definately- has control over whoever speaks at the RNC Convention as well as what they say at it. Miller, did not act alone as a simple disenfranchised member of the Democratic Party in order to get to the podium -- he had approval, a speech that had been reviewed by the RNC and their blessings to give it. Miller's speech is representative of the party proper -- not just some 527 or guy with a grudge.
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