School massacre

[PeteH 0]

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Right now, I don't have another way, but people need to be dealing with the cause, not the symptom.

Exactly.

Think about what should happen to put yourself in situation where there would be no hope for better life and suicide would be the best option you had.

Think about your (not all, but many people here) anger levels and would you just kill yourself (like the Kaiowas http://www.sdnp.org.gy/apa/suicides.htm
) or would you try to make someone pay for your sufferings?

[crozby 0]

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Yes, let's compromise with the terrorists!

What could possibly be wrong with that?

Here's a link to a site that you might want to take a look at. It explains the background to the situation in Chechnya.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/2565049.stm


I would be interested in how you would have handled the School situation without any form of negotiaton.

I would also be interested to hear your idea for solving the Chechnya problem without resorting to any kind of political solution.

[wmw999 2,477]

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But you are sure to have shitheads saying, "No, they still deserve a trial and life in prison! We can't let ourselves be like they are!"

Those people are right. Because only if you give rights to those most loathesome to you are the rights real and valid. These toads are loathesome. And if your system is strong enough, then it can show that it's stronger than the loathesome toads.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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"I say it's hardly genocide when you have been given no choice but to view an entire people as a sworn enemy that vows your complete destruction! You do what they FORCE you to do!"

The Russians have been pounding the fuck out of Chechnya for years man. Its precisely their 'carpet bomb the fuckers' approach to suppressing the Chechens that has resulted in this tragedy. Compounded in no small way by recent election fixing by Moscow.

The iron fist that everyone seems to be advocating has been applied to this region for years, and its clearly not working. It didn't work in Northern Ireland, its not working in Palestine, it doesn't work in Afghanistan, its clearly unsuccessful in Iraq.

That's because in none of those places did the conquerors actually truly kill all of the people in those places and colonize them with their own.

Sure, we can say that half-measures aren't working/haven't worked in all those other places. It's precisely because they're half-measures.

I guess the one solution that hasn't been tried is to LET GO OF SOME FUCKING LAND, give people a new "country," and say "THAT'S IT. DON'T THINK THAT MORE TERRORISM WILL GET YOU MORE LAND. If you try that we WILL come and OBLITERATE you for breaking the faith of this deal."

It's amazing how obstinate countries can be. It costs them thousands of lives every year.

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[Gravitymaster 0]

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I guess the one solution that hasn't been tried is to LET GO OF SOME FUCKING LAND, give people a new "country," and say "THAT'S IT. DON'T THINK THAT MORE TERRORISM WILL GET YOU MORE LAND. If you try that we WILL come and OBLITERATE you for breaking the faith of this deal."

It's amazing how obstinate countries can be. It costs them thousands of lives every year.

Israel tried that with the Palestinians. All it got them was more demands for more land.