tunaplanet 0 #51 October 7, 2004 Wow, starting to get ugly. Guess all that, "Kerry won the debate" rhetoric didn't mean shit. Wanna know why? Style vs Substance. He looked good but in the end he is still a liar. Oh well. Check out the latest poll numbers boys and girls. Oct 07 Bush - 240 Kerry - 169 Sep 30 Bush - 213 Kerry - 169 Guess whose not a toss-up state anymore? You got it. Florida. Toss up states are now Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #52 October 7, 2004 http://electoral-vote.com/ Kerry 253 Bush 264 And you need 270 to win.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #53 October 7, 2004 http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Electoral%20College%20Projection.htm Much better site. Not bias at all...plus they don't give the state's votes if it's within 5%. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #54 October 7, 2004 Nice thing about electoral-vote is that they average different pollsters reports to account for different polling methods. You can also see which states have 10% or better, 5-9%, or less than 5%. In fact, if you discount the less than 5% on their site, it is actually more favorable for Bush than Rasmussen is. BUSH 212 KERRY 154 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #55 October 7, 2004 That's interesting (electoral-votes.com) in that the only 2 states that are a toss up are New Hampshire and Michigan. I was just reading on www.msn.com that New Hampshre and Pennsylvania are about 49% to 42% Kerry article MSN has had Michigan listed as leaning Kerry for at least 2 weeks nowI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #56 October 8, 2004 That's why I like that site. You can go to 10 different sites and get 10 different results depending on how they collect the data. electoral-votes goes to those sites and averages them out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #57 October 8, 2004 Doesn't a toss-up state sound like everyone in that state is puking their guts out? Looks like all the rest of you people are in the hands of PhillyKev and I since we're in PA. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,461 #58 October 8, 2004 QuoteLooks like all the rest of you people are in the hands of PhillyKev and I since we're in PA. Mud wrestling in thongs to settle the election. Much more fun than the current method. States vie for the privilege of being the biggest toss-up so that their mass mudwrestling match can determine the winner. Think of the tourism dollars Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #59 October 8, 2004 QuoteLooks like all the rest of you people are in the hands of PhillyKev and I since we're in PA. Muhahahahahahahahahah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #60 October 9, 2004 The only electoral votes that matter are the ones on Nov. 2nd. And before you correct me, I do know that the electoral college doesn't actually cast their vote until December. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #61 October 9, 2004 QuotePersonally, tonight I'll be hitting the streets courtesy of Moveon to get registered democrats motivated to hit the ballot box. Yep, those Hungarian-born billionaires motivate ME to get involved in the political process, too! How's it feel to be a pawn of George "Alexander" Soros? -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #62 October 9, 2004 I always wondered what sort of people go banging on doors for one of the most biased websites on the planet, Guess we know now. I put those people in the same category as the religeous freaks that annoy me when I sit down to eat and that little black kid who tries relentlessly to sell me melted kit-kat bars. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #63 October 11, 2004 Well, over the weekend I spoke to 42 registered democrats who did not vote in the last presidential election. 38 of them will be voting this year for Kerry, 2 will be voting for Bush, and 2 haven't decided yet if they're going to vote or for whom. Not sure exactly how I'm being a pawn for someone else when they are provide ME with information so that I can help to further MY goals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #64 October 11, 2004 >Kerry 253 Bush 264 Today - Kerry 270 Bush 248, with 116 votes still 'in play' (i.e. exactly even or just a few points to one side or the other.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage63 0 #65 October 11, 2004 Hey Bill, were are you getting these numbers? Not saying they are wrong just want to go to the same sit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage63 0 #66 October 11, 2004 I've been going to www.tripias.com and useing "likely voters" which as of today shows a tie. For you people that study polls who knows of one that really seems to be fair? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #67 October 11, 2004 An ex coworker of mine put together a script to scrape the following sites: http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2004.html http://www.electoral-vote.com/ http://synapse.princeton.edu/~sam/pollcalc.html I receive an email daily and will be posting the results here. Summary There are 23 days left until the election. Bush leads by 52 in the Bush-biased electionprojection.com calculation. Kerry leads by 22 in the Kerry-biased electoral-vote.com calculation. Kerry leads by 6 in the neutral princeton calculation. Data Source Bush Kerry Tossup Change vs. Yesterday ----------------------- ----- ----- ------ -------------------- electionprojection.com 295 * 243 0 No change electoral-vote.com 248 270 * 20 Bush +/- 0, Kerry -10 princeton 266 272 * 0 No change average 270 * 262 6 Bush +/- 0, Kerry -3 * met minimum necessary for election (270 votes) - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #68 October 11, 2004 QuoteKerry 270 Bush 248, with 116 votes still 'in play' Bill, those numbers don't add up... there are only 538 votes in the EC, not 634... Rass. has Bush 240, Kerry 179, 119 Toss up... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #69 October 11, 2004 actually, Electoral-vote has Kerry at 280, not 270.... I think what Bill was saying is that 119 votes are up in the air, inlcuding those that are leaning right or left.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #70 October 11, 2004 Well, that was from the 10th. Not today. I'll post the results from the 11th (today), tomorrow. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanediver 0 #71 October 11, 2004 It's the presidential halloween costumes that really decide the election. The sales haven't been wrong in almost 25 years. http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/21/news/funny/prez_masks/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #72 October 11, 2004 >>Kerry 270 Bush 248, with 116 votes still 'in play' >Bill, those numbers don't add up... there are only 538 votes in the EC, not 634... Kerry 270, Bush 248, 20 votes too close to call. 96 votes are within 1 or 2 percent, even if they go to one candidate, so 116 votes could still go either way with even a 2% change. http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Update as of an hour ago - Kerry 280 Bush 254 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #73 October 11, 2004 Latest Update Bush - 240 Kerry - 194 Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #74 October 11, 2004 Quote It's the presidential halloween costumes that really decide the election. The sales haven't been wrong in almost 25 years. Well, that's not really fair. Those going as Puppets will swing the sales. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #75 October 11, 2004 Quote Update as of an hour ago - Kerry 280 Bush 254 Though most of the state polling data for electoral-vote.com is from October 4th/6th, before Friday's debate, and effectively the VP one as well. This weeks results could swing substantially either way. Interesting, Florida no longer seems to be a decider. They have Kerry losing it, but stll winning. It's now all about Penn and Ohio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites