rhino 0 #1 September 14, 2004 http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/09/13/lost.bomb/index.html An Air Force investigation concluded in 2001 that the bomb is probably harmless if left where it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #2 September 14, 2004 That would explain some Georgians glowing in the dark... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 September 14, 2004 Quote An Air Force investigation concluded in 2001 that the bomb is probably harmless if left where it is. Harmless unless someone else discovered its location and recovered it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 September 14, 2004 Well, hey, even if it doesn't have the plutonium trigger it is still 400 pounds of explosives and an unspecified amount of enriched uranium. Pretty damn good dirty bomb sitting right there just waiting to be dug up. Or hey, just blow it up in place. Nawww, probably more valuable just to recover it and have the threat of using it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #6 September 14, 2004 hmmm Q: what Tom Clancy novel used a 'lost' nuclear device to provide material for a terrorist attack?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #7 September 14, 2004 >what Tom Clancy novel used a 'lost' nuclear device to >provide material for a terrorist attack?? Come on. That was a novel; a work of fiction. Next thing you know, you're going to claim that a terrorist is going to fly a 747 into the Capitol Building. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 September 14, 2004 Quote Q: what Tom Clancy novel used a 'lost' nuclear device to provide material for a terrorist attack?? It wasn't even an orginal idea then . . . try "Thunderball" by Ian Flemming.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 September 14, 2004 wasnt that one stolen though not stumbled apon? i'm not sure its been a while since ive seen/read that one.... hmmm have to see if i still have it..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 September 14, 2004 Yes, in Thunderball they (there were two of them) were stolen, but it's still the same basic idea. Nukes fall into the hands of terrorists. Slightly different motivation in the case of SPECTER though. I still think it's not out of the realm of possibilty that a terrorist organization would try to recover the bomb though. I wonder if we have SEALs (or something similar) guarding it underwater?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #11 September 14, 2004 >That would explain some Georgians glowing in the dark... And as I recall, it's our policy to invade countries that might allow nuclear materials to fall into the hands of terrorists. Can we invade Georgia? It would be like 1861 all over again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #12 September 14, 2004 "I wonder if we have SEALs (or something similar) guarding it underwater? " With 61 of these bad boys missing......-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 September 14, 2004 Well, I wouldn't expect them to guard the ones that are -missing- (how do you guard something if you don't know where it is?), just the ones we know the locations of, yet do not wish to risk actually recovering.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #14 September 14, 2004 Sorry Paul, I was being facetious.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #15 September 14, 2004 "The United States lost 11 nuclear bombs in accidents during the Cold War that were never recovered, according to the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank. An estimated 50 nuclear warheads, most of them from the former Soviet Union, still lie on the bottom of the world's oceans, according to the environmental group Greenpeace." Cool! Tritium has a half life of 12.3 years, so that won;t be much of an issue.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #16 September 14, 2004 I believe you're looking for the answer: "Sum of all fears" involving a lost Israili nuke. Q: Does anyone find it odd that they were "training" with a real nuke (albeit not "live"). It's still radio active and still contained 400lb of conventional explosives. Surely if there's no need for it to actually be live for the training - there's equally no need for it to be an actual nuke... just be sized and weighted accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #17 September 14, 2004 QuoteI believe you're looking for the answer: "Sum of all fears" involving a lost Israili nuke. Q: Does anyone find it odd that they were "training" with a real nuke (albeit not "live"). It's still radio active and still contained 400lb of conventional explosives. Surely if there's no need for it to actually be live for the training - there's equally no need for it to be an actual nuke... just be sized and weighted accordingly. I don't find it at all odd given the mindset of the times. Have you seen Dr. Strangelove?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 475 #18 September 14, 2004 QuoteThe United States lost 11 nuclear bombs in accidents during the Cold War that were never recovered, according to the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank. Jeez and the US critizes other nations for not protecting WMD's... To think of all the worry about Saddam letting WMD's into terrorist hands. With US ones there is no need to smuggle them in. Mind you with the right to bear arms - a texan somewhere has probably got them in his armamentExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #19 September 14, 2004 Quote>That would explain some Georgians glowing in the dark... And as I recall, it's our policy to invade countries that might allow nuclear materials to fall into the hands of terrorists. Can we invade Georgia? It would be like 1861 all over again! If we know where it is, and we aren't real willing to recover it, I can't really see some terrorist sitting off the coast of GA for days trying to bring this thing up undetected. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #20 September 14, 2004 Damn - it had ummm Ben Aflek - Morgan Freeman -I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #21 September 14, 2004 "The Sum of All Fears" Watched it this past weeknd. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #22 September 14, 2004 QuoteDamn - it had ummm Ben Aflek - Morgan Freeman - God! how i hated the movie version.... so many changes to the whims of political correctness it completely ruined the story...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #23 September 14, 2004 >If we know where it is, and we aren't real willing to recover it, I can't >really see some terrorist sitting off the coast of GA for days trying to >bring this thing up undetected. I was actually kidding about restarting the Civil War. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #24 September 14, 2004 Yeah the book was a lot better especially the way the President went to pieces. The whole affair with the National Security advisor added to the flavor of events with the decision making etc.. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites