skydiverwannabe 0 #1 April 16, 2016 Hi, does anybody know this manufacturer of rigs? Anybody who owns of these? Or knows the company? They sell a tailor made container/harnas for €1195. http://skyblue.co.rs/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zydrius 0 #2 April 16, 2016 you wanna be test pilot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burim88 0 #3 April 16, 2016 Where are they based? Won't even let me load their website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverwannabe 0 #4 April 16, 2016 In Croatia. Their website works fine here. Does TSO C 23 C mean their products live up to international standards? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gb1 3 #5 April 16, 2016 Look's like all the other rigs out there. Not much different from the ones developed in the mid 1970's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 107 #6 April 16, 2016 skydiverwannabeIn Croatia. Their website works fine here. Does TSO C 23 C mean their products live up to international standards? No. What their website says is "developed and tested in according to USA FAA TSO C23c." Those are weasel words intended to mislead. If it were approved under US TSO (or European or other international equivalent), they would use the word "approved." -Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
degeneration 5 #7 April 16, 2016 If you are looking for a cheap priced container that is known more than these ones, but is still not a 'major' brand, try http://sws.aero/en/ and their fire container. Container for $1150 plus options. I've got 2 of them, and they are slowly getting more popular.Sky Switches - Affordable stills camera tongue switches and conversion adaptors, supporting various brands of camera (Canon, Sony, Nikon, Panasonic). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffBarlow 10 #8 April 16, 2016 Tell me one thing: if you are on the budget why would you need a non TSOd gear for $1150 + options while you can get for example Vortex container with probably all the options you can think of included (well, except Skyhook) for $1800....???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoneCodFishing 24 #9 April 16, 2016 Because he doesn't live in the US? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #10 April 16, 2016 Zydrius you wanna be test pilot? We're all test pilots.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwiskydiving 0 #11 April 17, 2016 Vortex containers are manufactured by Parachute Systems in South Africa, not the US. Their canopies, however, are made in the US. My volt is made in the US.My skydiving blog: www.kiwiskydiving.com /// youtube channel: kiwiskydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mathrick 2 #12 April 17, 2016 SWS rigs don't have a TSO either, because they legally cannot: FAA doesn't have a permanent representative in Ukraine, therefore no Ukrainian manufacturer could possibly obtain a TSO. They have E-TSO however (a corresponding EU certification), and have physically passed the tests they'd be subject to for a C23d. Lack of FAA TSO is only a problem for people living and jumping in the US, or people otherwise jumping on a USPA licence; anyone else, including foreign jumpers in the US without a residence there, can jump these just fine as long as their licensing organisation recognises the gear. It's quite likely that it's the case with these rigs too, Serbia and Montenegro might not have an FAA representative, but the type certificate was issued by the national aviation authority based on the criteria outlined in TSO C23d. That's what the intent of the scan of their award of type certificate seems to be. Whether it's actually the case however, and whether they're trustworthy equipment is not something I can answer. Gear not made in the US can be perfectly fine and just as good as US-made whilst being cheaper. SWS and Parachute Systems demonstrate that well. But you need to make sure you can communicate with the manufacturer and existing users to gather opinions, which might be a real issue for gear made in countries where English is not a given. Skyblue's site is definitely sparse on info if you don't speak Serbo-Croatian."Skydivers are highly emotional people. They get all excited about their magical black box full of mysterious life saving forces." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
file 1 #13 April 18, 2016 skydiverwannabeIn Croatia. Skys are made in Serbia, not Croatia. I've seen some of his rigs; let me say this way, he won't push UPT and Sunpath out of business... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites