PhillyKev 0 #51 September 28, 2004 QuoteKerry has his priorities mixed up then... He is putting tax cuts over the safety of our troops!!!!! That is wrong and now I definately won't vote for him!!! Umm, might want to get up to speed on the issues. That money was for rebuilding Iraqi infrastructure, not the troops or their safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #52 September 28, 2004 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry said he would spend as many BILLIONS that was needed to defend the US and our troops. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure did, but wouldn't have cut taxes. Therefore, the issue of the deficit wouldn't be as bad. He had the oportunity to defend the troops...He voted not to."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #53 September 28, 2004 Beep-Beep-Beep-Beep-Beep-Beep- Shut up OK!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #54 September 28, 2004 QuoteBeep-Beep-Beep-Beep-Beep-Beep- Shut up OK!!!! Not OK - I don't much agree with PK lately, but I'd never tell someone to shut-up. If you think about it, it's one of the worst things you can say to someone. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #55 September 28, 2004 QuoteThat money was for rebuilding Iraqi infrastructure, not the troops or their safety. Not entirely true.. a large portion of the money was for infastructure, but there was money for the military too... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #56 September 28, 2004 You're right...I stand corrected (and bringing myself back up to speed on that issue) Even so, it's an invalid assumption that someone is against the troops when they vote on two different spending measures because of the way they are designed. There were two different bills floated to allocate that money. He voted for the funding when it was framed in a fiscally sound manner. That was defeated by the Republicans because it didn't include tax cuts. So if you're going to play that game you have to say that they felt tax cuts were more important than the safety of our troops. But, I wouldn't say that either. It's silly to try to make an assumption about support or opposition to a single aspect of complex bills that go through congress. In reality, they have to decide on the bills as a whole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #57 September 28, 2004 You seemed to explain his different votes in an easy enough manner, that almost anyone can understand, even me... I wonder why Kerry can't explain himself in such a way? JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #58 September 28, 2004 QuoteI wonder why Kerry can't explain himself in such a way? Me too His campaign team seems to really friggin suck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #59 September 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteI wonder why Kerry can't explain himself in such a way? Me too His campaign team seems to really friggin suck. I have nothing to add to that, thank you PK.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #60 September 28, 2004 QuoteHis campaign team seems to really friggin suck What does that say about his adversaries in the primaries? A prime opportunity to beat a vunerable President too... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #61 September 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteYep....it's called balancing the books. It's going to have to be paid eventually. Meanwhile, interest is accruing. Bottom line is that tax cuts now, result in tax increases later. And vice versa. Paying down the debt now, results in tax cuts later. Just the interest on the debt amounts to 11% of the federal budget. And the higher the debt goes, the more that will be. Every dollar in deficit spending increases that amount. So by giving tax breaks instead of reducing the deficit, you're going to have to pay that amount eventually in your taxes PLUS the interest. Basically, any tax cut you get is just a loan that you're going to have to pay back along with about 6% interest per year. Kev, what you don't realize though is that right now Rates are low.... The Government can just get one of those 0% APR Credit cards and transfer the balance for a couple years!!!!! See, you aren't thinking There's a hidden cost to consider too - that due to the dramatic decline in the value of the $US over the last 18 months. All those foreign cars, TVs, DVD players, stereos, computers, etc. have to be paid for in devalued dollars.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #62 September 29, 2004 Getting this thread back on track. We have been told by Kerry that one of the reasons we should vote for him for President is he would "get our allies back on our side and get the UN involved" in Iraq. Considering most Liberals discount the validity of the countries that did help the US in Iraq, I take that to mean that Kerry will get Germany and France back into the fold. Kerry even stated that he had discussions with "Leaders" in other countries and suggested they secretly expressed they wanted him to become President. I take that to mean he would get them to support the war. Apparently this is once again a Kerry fantasy (lie). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
