PhillyKev 0 #26 October 7, 2004 Quoteno one should suggest that they should continue to donate anyway, because *other* boys will still benefit. No one was suggesting that you should. I said several times, you have every right not to donate to any group if you don't approve of who the money goes to. But it doesn't make what they are doing wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #27 October 7, 2004 QuoteMy father went there (Hershey School) when his dad died. My whole falmily went to the reunion every year. When my dad died I asked my Mom to send me there based on what my dad told me about the school. Came to find out, it wasn't even close to what it was when he was there. The vocational programs were practically scrapped, half of the homes were no longer on working farms and most of the kids there were one step away from juvenile hall before they got there. My Dad lives in Hershey, with his 2nd wife who is an executive for Hershey. I've toured the school. It's my understanding that the school is for "needy" children only, not just anyone who wants to go there. You have to be missing a parent, poor, or something like that to gain entry. And even then, there's a heck of a selection process. But once your in, it's a veeery nice place. Dorms, laptop computers, sports, free college tuition once you graduate, huge meticulous campus, and so on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #28 October 7, 2004 >I said several times, you have every right not to donate to any group >if you don't approve of who the money goes to. Unless it's being funded by the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, in which case you are compelled to 'donate' to their cause. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #29 October 7, 2004 QuoteMy Dad lives in Hershey, with his 2nd wife who is an executive for Hershey. I've toured the school. It's my understanding that the school is for "needy" children only, not just anyone who wants to go there. You have to be missing a parent, poor, or something like that to gain entry. And even then, there's a heck of a selection process. But once your in, it's a veeery nice place. Dorms, laptop computers, sports, free college tuition once you graduate, huge meticulous campus, and so on. Yes, you have to be missing a parent and have the financial need. The application process took me a year to get in. It is a very nice place, but it used to be a lot nicer. When I was there we had to get up at 5AM, go out to the barn, milk the cows, then clean the house, then go to school, come home milk the cows, clean the house, do the yard work, do your homework, etc. It was a very structured environment. You lived in a house with about a dozen other kids around your same age with a set of house parents. Now the dairy barns are gone and the kids from 1st grade to hgh school are mixed together. My understanding is that the overall quality of the structured home environment is pretty poor now. The education there was excellent, though. I went in 10th grade (the oldest you cuold be to get in) and was in 3rd year Spanish at my old school. Walked into Spanish class there and was completely lost. They had to drop me back down to 1st year. By the middle of 2nd year they were speaking completely in Spanish from the time the bell rings to start class until it fniishes. Also, there's a waiting list years long for teachers from around the country to get jobs there, so they recruit the best. Admission Criteria: To be considered for enrollment, the child must: Come from a family of low income*, limited resources, and social need. Be from the ages of 4-15 years old. Have the ability to learn. Be free of serious emotional and behavioral problems that disrupt life in the classroom or the home. Be able to take part in the MHS program. Be a United States citizen. Although preference is given to children born in Dauphin, Lancaster, or Lebanon counties in Pennsylvania and children from the rest of Pennsylvania in accordance with the School’s Deed of Trust, current students come from many states. The School examines need, motivation, and personal character in making its final selections. Enrollment is not guaranteed and prospective students must demonstrate the capability to benefit from the programs the School offers. The School admits boys and girls of any race, color, religion, nationality, or ethnic origin. *Household family income requirements Eligibility limits are determined annually using as guidance, federal poverty programs that provide health, food, and education benefits for low-income families. Family resources also are considered. The average total income of a family of three enrolling in August 2003 was $13,700. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #30 October 8, 2004 I do agree with you about the lifestyle there becoming more lax. It's still a hell of an education. I live very close to Hershey, even grocery shop in Hershey since the Giant there is infinitely better than the crappy one in Elizabethtown. If I wasn't working every Saturday, I'd consider being a relief houseparent. They are always advertising in the paper that subs are needed. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #31 October 8, 2004 Cool: How 'bout if I want to hunt people? There seem to be a lot of them around!! Actually I love to hunt, but only if the weather is too crappy to jump.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #32 October 9, 2004 QuoteNone of the guaranteed "fish in a barrel" stuff where they release the animals from pens so you can shoot them (that's bullshit). But I doubt that's what they did -- a kid whose dying wish is to get a hunt is going to respect the sport enough to think that's the wrong way to do it. Wendy W. I'm not sure, since I have never done one, but I don't think that characterization of such hunts is accurate. The nearest I've heard is that such "canned" hunts still take place on huge expanses of land. Just because they have a known border to the owned property does not mean it's like shooting a beagle in a fenced back yard or something. I think that image of so-called "canned hunts" comes directly from anti-hunting extremist groups. Just like "cop-killer bullets" is a made up, meaningless term coined by those who want to ban guns. (Same mindset: screw the facts, we just want to sway minds) -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #33 October 9, 2004 LOL, my last roommates family owned a Grouse/Pheasent hunting outfit and they were getting into other small upland birds type hunts. You pay for 10-20 birds to be tossed out in a 200-500 acre field and you'd have 5 hours to hunt them. Each person bought an add on to the base if they wanted more. Fully trained dogs were provided and field controlled by the hunting operators. Out of the 20 birds it was typical to see 18 killed in a group of 3-4 hunters in a morning. Its not sporting at all when you take birds that have been caged all their lives and never have really flown, toss them in a brand new environment at first light by dumping their cage out off a 4 wheeler and seeing that they scatter into the brush. Then you take a fully trained dog out and let them have at the field, its like shooting fish in a barell. We kicked up the spare birds by out crusing on the 4 wheelers days/weeks later. Instead of flushing and flying hard away they some times tried to out run us It was still fun to kick them up, but I gave up carrying a gun since it just seemed so unfair.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
