grue 1 #1 January 6, 2007 I've been doing minimal jumping over the last few months whilst I've been waiting for my new canopy (Precision Aero Fusion 190, tapered zp 9, if you don't know it. Flies similar to a Sabre2 or Safire 2). It's due to arrive Monday, which is of course very exciting, but I have a question. Would you, as a person in a similar hypothetical situation, rather jump on an 80° day with a light breeze (3mph or so), or a 95° day with a stiffer breeze (13mph or so). For my metric brothers, 27° and 5km/h, or 33° and 21km/h So which would you pick, and why? Addendum: I'm probably close to 15 lbs lighter than I was on the old 210 (same model), so this really shouldn't be THAT much of a change really. I could land that one upwind, downwind, crosswind, rear risers, whatever. It's just that it was six months ago cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 January 6, 2007 I'd jump it in the lower wind preferrably, because I feel more comfortable with lower wind. If the wind is quite strong I'll first check how the others fly and decide if go/no-goscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #3 January 6, 2007 QuoteI'd jump it in the lower wind preferrably, because I feel more comfortable with lower wind. If the wind is quite strong I'll first check how the others fly and decide if go/no-go Hm, I guess this is more complicated than I thought, I didn't take into account that some people's DZs are windier than others. I'm used to a windy dropzone, so a 3mph wind to me seems realllly low I guess I'll have to see what the weather forecasts are saying when I actually have the canopy in hand, and make the call then.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #4 January 6, 2007 don't forget it's easier to put a canopy on risers with 3mph wind than in 15mph scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #5 January 6, 2007 Quotedon't forget it's easier to put a canopy on risers with 3mph wind than in 15mph Damned good point! My rig is at the DZ, I took it up there a couple weeks ago for a repack + Cypres install, I didn't realise I left the risers and toggles i nthe damned rig until I got home. Otherwise I'd put the bag + risers on when the canopy gets here, and just hook it up and go jump. Now I've gotta blow a bit of time assembling everything when I get there.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icevideot 0 #6 January 6, 2007 I really don't pay the wind much attention unless it is really gusty or bumpy. Just be sure and do several practice flares up high and think of how it feels like it is responding and then be sure and leave room to overshoot your target. I hope you enjoy the new toy."... this ain't a Nerf world." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #7 January 7, 2007 QuoteI've been doing minimal jumping over the last few months whilst I've been waiting for my new canopy (Precision Aero Fusion 190, tapered zp 9, if you don't know it. Flies similar to a Sabre2 or Safire 2). Oh NO, you'll probably forget to pull too!....... Shit, just go jump. You'll probably wont even notice a difference....... Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #8 January 9, 2007 Go to Nagambie Find the CI, Luke Oliver Explain your concerns, and listen to his advice Go and enjoy your jumps Luke is very very good at what he does, and his advice has always struck me as sensible. He's also written a thesis on teaching canopy control, so its a subject he's given considerable thought to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Wench 0 #9 January 9, 2007 Hey Grue, im a Naggas jumper too.. have we met? I second that from bob.dino.. i just completed conversions with Luke going from chest mounted ripcord flying a 240 - to BOC 190 and he and the other staff at Naggas were great in terms of discussion of canopy piloting. Ill be moving to my Safire2 169 once i am happy with my landings, exciting stuff isnt it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #10 January 9, 2007 Turned out to be a non issue! Got canopy yesterday, went to the DZ this morning. Put it on the risers and hooked everything up. Packed it, then sat around for about six hours waiting for the right conditions. Jumped from 9.5, 17 second delay (according to protrack), played around with the canopy, stood up the landing. Felt just like the 210 did, just snappier cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #11 January 9, 2007 Quote Hey Grue, im a Naggas jumper too.. have we met? I second that from bob.dino.. i just completed conversions with Luke going from chest mounted ripcord flying a 240 - to BOC 190 and he and the other staff at Naggas were great in terms of discussion of canopy piloting. Ill be moving to my Safire2 169 once i am happy with my landings, exciting stuff isnt it! I don't believe we've met, but today was only my second time at the DZ (I just moved here). I'll be there Saturday though!cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #12 January 10, 2007 QuoteHey Grue, im a Naggas jumper too.. have we met? Just look for the American. Heh heh . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #13 January 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteHey Grue, im a Naggas jumper too.. have we met? Just look for the American. Heh heh . Someone asked me if I was Canadian yesterday cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #14 January 10, 2007 Quote Someone asked me if I was Canadian yesterday you say that as if its a bad thing? I believe it was a compliment .You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #15 January 10, 2007 QuoteQuote Someone asked me if I was Canadian yesterday you say that as if its a bad thing? I believe it was a compliment . I kinda take it as one these days. It's more socially acceptable to be Canadian outside of the US. Plus it tends to mean "Hey, you're not a total twat!" cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #16 January 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote Someone asked me if I was Canadian yesterday you say that as if its a bad thing? I believe it was a compliment . I kinda take it as one these days. It's more socially acceptable to be Canadian outside of the US. Plus it tends to mean "Hey, you're not a total twat!" Even if you areYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icevideot 0 #17 January 10, 2007 QuoteSomeone asked me if I was Canadian yesterday But, I watch Southpark. You mean all Canadian's heads don't flap when they speak? I would think that would be a dead giveaway."... this ain't a Nerf world." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #18 January 10, 2007 Yes its true, our heads flop when we speak. But all Americans are fat asses right? Thats why you all fly such big canopies? You're still loading them at 2.0 no?You think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adobelover 0 #19 January 13, 2007 Low wind day so you can open high and have plenty of time to play with your canopy and get a better idea of how it flares, turning ratio, etc._________________________________________ Old age ain't no place for sissies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites