nacmacfeegle 0 #26 November 3, 2004 I must admit I missed that, but the article says he will run for a third term, he's approaching the end of his second. So by that, it looks unlikely he will stand down for at least another 5 or so years, barring things like votes of no confidence etc, which would call for an out of sequence general election.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #27 November 3, 2004 Hi Nac. Complicated, eh? Mark isn't being detained. He's out on bail of 2 bar, and has to say hello to the police every day. I'm glad I'm where I am. I'm looking forward to my month long holiday in the US at the end of the year, and hope not to get too bogged down on the politics issue. I'm prepaired to discuss US politics with anyone in the US, as long as the conversations take place in my mothers native tongue. I'm there to skydive and meet some people in Boston for the very 1st time. Life in SA is simple. Only 2 kinds of South Africans. The quick and the dead. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #28 November 3, 2004 "I'm looking forward to my month long holiday in the US at the end of the year" You think they are going to let you in?-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #29 November 3, 2004 Well another 4 years of killing!! ya!!, Anyway with the foreign politics aside, your country has seemed to voted bush back in. America has always been a country of decent people and a country of wealth. Your country has been leaders to the rest of the world, even if some things i do not agree with or many millions dont agree with but at the same time when the world has needed america to help in other areas your country has been there. So If over half the american people have voted this man back in there must be some good in him. As a foreigner who travells different countries every year i have not been able to see the good bush has done nor have i heard about it, probably though because of the way the foreign press talk about him. I hope you all get what you want out of your president and i sure hope that his national policies do you all good. Do know though though that this man is someone the rest of the world do not trust. You have elected him for a reason and maybe in his last 4 years he does not go against the world and spend more time doing what your country needs done for your people. There has been a hell of alot of bush bashing for the last 4 years and there will probably be more. I have been bashing bush, but what i think is that all of us that having been bashing bush now need to sit back and take what we gave out. Start Bashing us because you deserve to gloat after having to defend your president. You have put up with 4 years of it, it is now your turn to give back what you have had to take and everyone else does not need to say stop because they never stopped. To all americans though, you guys should all feel pretty good, you all stuck to your guns and this election has shown the world that Bush is liked in your states. We were always told that the americans did not like their president, i guess we were told wrong.....I still dont understand you though, but do enjoy paying us out. Stupi F@*%^)( S^%%^ cr%p&*& Blah Blah Blah .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #30 November 3, 2004 QuoteWho can the Dems blame now? Ummm, hasn't this been answered a billion times by now? The answer always is and always will be.... CANADA! duh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #31 November 3, 2004 QuoteYou think they are going to let you in? They might. My visa doesn't expire for another 5 years, and I've been several times in the past and caused no trouble. If they don't - well then I guess it's the Margate boogie rather than the Eloy boogie, and the heat of Africa rather than the cold of Boston to contend with! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #32 November 3, 2004 QuoteIt's still just about the closest race in the history of our nation. Actually 2000 was the closest, in terms of EC numbers and popular vote... '04 will see a clear majority in the popular vote (which has not happened in several elections) and more than a 1 vote EC margin... so this will not be the closest... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pccoder 0 #33 November 3, 2004 I did not say the closest. I said one of the closest. Please read more carefully before putting words in my mouth. And 2004 is not showing a clear majority, unless of course you believe that just over 50% is a clear majority. I have always thought a majority is more like upwards of 65% to 70% and beyond. When it's just about 50/50 (and it is very close to that) you do not have a "clear" majority. Additionally, the 50/50 showing in 2000 also displays how there is no clear majority in our country about where or how we should proceed. We would have known without any worry of being wrong LAST NIGHT if there was a clear majority. Not to say Bush won't win. I believe he did get a majority (more than 50%). But clear? Overwhelming? Pulse of the masses? Not sure about that one. PcCoder.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #34 November 3, 2004 I think something here is a little different. Bush obviously won the popular vote. Something that Bill Clinton never did. Republicans didn't clammer on about that. It's the system that is in place that is there to protect us against our own ignorance. Until the system is changed to 1 person-1 vote the popular vote is cast aside somewhat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamih 0 #35 November 3, 2004 Wow this country is incredible, 50million people voting for Hate, War, and Fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #36 November 3, 2004 QuoteI have always thought a majority is more like upwards of 65% to 70% and beyond That is not a majority, that would be a mandate... a majority is anything over 50%... 51.4% is a majority, 48% is obviously not... I don't even think this is one of the closest, not in terms of popular vote anyway... 2000, 1968, 1960, 1916, 1908... all closer. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #37 November 3, 2004 Quote"I'm looking forward to my month long holiday in the US at the end of the year" You think they are going to let you in? So Nac, U paying us a visit this yr? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #38 November 3, 2004 QuoteSo Nac, U paying us a visit this yr? God I hope so, I owe Dave a good deal of Shiner Bock and it would be good to jump with him again! Its been what, 2 years since NacMac (Dave) was in Texas? That's too long.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1 0 #39 November 3, 2004 [50 million people voting for Hate, War, and Fear] 50 million people sticking with the man when the going gets tough. We didn't draw first blood and will not be influenced by what the rest of the world thinks of the man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamih 0 #40 November 3, 2004 QuoteWe didn't draw first blood. "he started it!!" Such foolish childishness.. and you'd be surprised, if you knew the Real, unedited version of the US's history of foreign affairs. Remember that it's never as simple as they want you to think it is. There is no 'good' in this world as there is no 'evil'. We are all just crazy animals who will just never get along . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #41 November 3, 2004 Damn right its been too long, but sadly I won't be going anywhere this side of christmas, I was hoping to get to Eloy, but the family is coming over from New Zealand. Maybe spring?-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #42 November 3, 2004 Quote Damn right its been too long, but sadly I won't be going anywhere this side of christmas, I was hoping to get to Eloy, but the family is coming over from New Zealand. Maybe spring? Well, sorry to tell you, but Texas really doesn't have a "spring." Maybe you mean the winter vs summer battle in March?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1 0 #43 November 3, 2004 ["he started it!!"] No, Iraq started it back in 1990 when Saddam wanted to become the next Hitler of the Middle East. Then Osama struck in 911. We are just finishing it and are now in the long process of moping up. Who is the better of the four evils? Bush, Saddam, Taliban, Al Queda. I don't think that is a difficult choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pccoder 0 #44 November 3, 2004 Thanks for assisting me with both my math and my grammer. Now I feel smarter. Everyone has to be right. Bottom line, the country is split on core issues. These issues may end up being the demise of our "Rome" mentality. PcCoder.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
