nacmacfeegle 0 #26 November 4, 2004 'the Mirror is a shit newspaper' I'll say it again, The Mirror is a shit newspaper, even if it panders to people of the same political colour as me. Their boss Piers Morgan is a knob, remember the British Iraqi prisoner abuse fraud?....That was the Mirror. That little jape didn't do anything to help a nasty situation, it may even have cost good people their life, and it should have cost Morgan his job. I don't often agree with the Gravitymaster, but the Mirror and the Independent are out of order with their headlines today. Yeah the Americans voted in a president who may not be popular over here, but thats their right, and thats democracy baby. We'll just have to suck it up and deal with it, because lets face it, there's fuck all we can do about it.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #27 November 4, 2004 sorry, but these are just the normal standard phrases used worldwide by diplomats after elections to congratulate a new president, a new government etc. no more, no lessThe universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #28 November 4, 2004 Quoteand it should have cost Morgan his job. Err.. Morgan did lose his job. Enjoy your "Ha ha, serves the fucker right" moment. I did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #29 November 4, 2004 Told you I didn't read the rag much. Feck, I must have been away that week.Ha ha, serves the fucker right.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #30 November 4, 2004 QuoteA lot of EU countries are quietly happy with the result. Not exactly because they want Bush in... but simply because if Kerry had won they would have been under a lot of pressure to send troops to Iraq. With Bush still in the Whitehouse the question doesn't get raised and they don't have to deal with the issue. right exactly - and this is in fact a great opportunity for the EU in the transatlantic competition. It is already starting to pull ahead of the US on currency as well as in many areas of research and technology and diplomacy. With a US that is unilaterally and endlessly bogged down in horridly managed wars and occupations in the mideast, getting their resources drained and getting more and more isolated b/c the narrow midededness of the current foreign policy, the EU has a great chance to pull ahead even further on economic, monetary, and technology etc issues. Also the often research-hostile morality driven environment is also already leading in the research comunity to a movement (back) to the old continent. Moreover, the US won't be able to check and deal with the invetiable rise of the super-economy China with its other preoccupations. More likely again is that the EU will take the lead in the cooperation of the western world with China. Sure, foreign policy is a pretty difficult thing in general for the EU, gievn its made up of a lot of indicidula countries. But even with that obstacke they are alreacdy scoring more diplomatic points, e.g., in Iran than the US. If this administrationcontinues its policies the days of the US as a "leader of the free world" are numbered. And 59 mio will have no excuse that they didn't know this was coming - they will have only themselves to blame. This is perocialism as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #31 November 6, 2004 QuoteWorld leaders rushed to congratulate US President George W. Bush on his re-election to a second four-year term and pledged cooperation with Washington to heal deep divisions over a host of international issues, notably Iraq and the Middle East. I guess they weren't impressed with Vladimir Putin's election victory as his subsequent government reforms makes the EU uneasy. Might as well stay close to those subsidized modern medicines for their aging populations. The EU has lots of Muslims within its borders, so might as well stay aligned with someone who can and *will* strike back anywhere on the planet; remember the EU response in the former Balkans -- they started using "bold fonts" in their harshly worded statements -- the U.S. delivered the decisive strikes barely tapping its resources. Like it or not, U.S. productivity makes for a decent investment climate too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites